I heard the full story of the woman jailed for two years for a tweet
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#3The 1st amendment of the US Constitution may have been informed by previous government censorship and fear of totalitarianism.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "
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#5The 1st amendment of the US Constitution may have been informed by previous government censorship and fear of totalitarianism. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "
IANAL, but isn't it illegal to call for mass killing in the US? I don't know what the particular law is, or what the specifics are, i.e. how hard it is to establish in court.
Of course the severity of this sentence is another story.
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#6The 1st amendment of the US Constitution may have been informed by previous government censorship and fear of totalitarianism. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. "
IANAL, but isn't it illegal to call for mass killing in the US? I don't know what the particular law is, or what the specifics are, i.e. how hard it is to establish in court. Of course the severity of this sentence is another story.
You are absolutely right. It's referred to as Incitement to Imminent Lawless Action.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
IANAL, but isn't it illegal to call for mass killing in the US? I don't know what the particular law is, or what the specifics are, i.e. how hard it is to establish in court. Of course the severity of this sentence is another story.
You are absolutely right. It's referred to as Incitement to Imminent Lawless Action.
I feel like there's a lot of room in "imminent" - I wonder what precedent has to say.
E.g. probably if two guys are arguing in physical proximity and you're shouting for guy A to shoot guy B, that counts.
But maybe if you tweet, "hey everybody, go kill that guy", it's not imminent/directed enough?
I only say this because I feel like I'm pretty often surprised by how high the standards are for applying some laws, despite the title/brief description of the law (of course as a rule, high standards are good here, but sometimes they can feel so high that the law has no teeth).
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#9At least a few things this piece doesn't mention - her 10k followers, it being read 310k times and various other messages she posted.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are absolutely right. It's referred to as Incitement to Imminent Lawless Action.
I feel like there's a lot of room in "imminent" - I wonder what precedent has to say. E.g. probably if two guys are arguing in physical proximity and you're shouting for guy A to shoot guy B, that counts. But maybe if you tweet, "hey everybody, go kill that guy", it's not imminent/directed enough? I only say this because I feel like I'm pretty often surprised by how high the standards are for applying some laws, desp…
Yes, the imminent is a high bar.