The Candid Naivety of Geeks
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The Candid Naivety of Geeks
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#2yeah it sucks that a lot of the rust ecosystem is pushing permissive licenses over copyleft
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#3Thought the title said greeks and was very confused when I started reading about amazon. Very good article though.
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#4Guy on a good soapbox, but heavy on assertions and high emotion. Those damn trade-offs!
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#5yeah it sucks that a lot of the rust ecosystem is pushing permissive licenses over copyleft
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#6yeah it sucks that a lot of the rust ecosystem is pushing permissive licenses over copyleft
copyleft is less free than permissive. noone should be compelled to share their work if they don't want to.
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#7yeah it sucks that a lot of the rust ecosystem is pushing permissive licenses over copyleft
copyleft is less free than permissive. noone should be compelled to share their work if they don't want to.
But we collectively should be compelled to protect it under IP law?
I’m personally completely fine(legally not morally) with people or organizations who want to keep trade secrets secret, but not if they also want society to protect anyone copying their work. The tradeoff is you show society how to accomplish your innovation and we’ll guarantee you profits for X years with the might of law
Edit: this was in response to the comment about no one should be compelled to share their work. I don’t know enough about the nuances of copyleft vs permissive licenses to have useful commentary
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#9Ploum's Doctorow-adjacent nuance-free condescending nerd-rants always makes me want to channel n-gate.
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#10yeah it sucks that a lot of the rust ecosystem is pushing permissive licenses over copyleft
Rust libraries "have to" be permissive due to the way they are compiled. Rust's current compilation method requires everything to be compiled with the exact version of the compiler at the same exact setup due to lack of ABI compatibility guarantees. This means everything has to be compiled from source. LGPL doesn't work since it will force companies to release their entire source code.
Without the ease for proprietary software development Rust wouldn't get as popular nor it would receive the same support from big tech. Without that popular support it wouldn't be as performant, nor it would attract the top system programmers it did.
It is also extremely naive to think that copyleft licenses aren't actively violated. It is rampant and at this point violating them is the industry standard actually. Making software effectively "ownerless" by accepting many independent developers makes it also equally hard to defend its licenses. The socioeconomic system of the West prioritizes private ownership. Without a clear private owner (or a consortium acting on behalf), it is hard to defend GPL and the rights.