Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

Mozilla were ruined by big Google checks. How they could let this opportunity slip while electron became the ui for every major desktop app… such a shame.

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by supriyo-biswas » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:46 PM UTC

blizdiddy wrote: post #4

Mozilla were ruined by big Google checks. How they could let this opportunity slip while electron became the ui for every major desktop app… such a shame.

Personally, I feel Mozilla did not market XUL[1] enough. Had they done that, it could have become what Electron is today, with a native look and feel, and with a much reduced footprint while still offering a JS-based runtime for applications.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by agiacalone » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:47 PM UTC

uutangohotel wrote: post #2

Too little too late?

Curiously, what is the alternative? Chromium-based browsers?

Sorry, but I don't trust Google's push to Manifest V3.

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by breckinloggins » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:50 PM UTC

I’m not sure what Mozilla has been doing the last ten years but I’m fairly certain it has little to do with what users want.

I am thoroughly finished with them as an organization; hopefully they represent the end of an ugly era, which to my recollection began in about 2013. I will not mourn their inevitable slide into complete irrelevance and financial insolvency.

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by ctoth » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:52 PM UTC

> Similarly, Rubino says web apps in Firefox will not use a minimal browser frame and will continue to show a main toolbar with address bar, extensions, bookmarks...

Why is this so hard to understand? Why are they so against just making it work like it's supposed to? PWAs are actively useful and great and this is just frustrating.

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by bergheim » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:55 PM UTC

Every time Mozilla is on here people go crazy.

And they wrote their comment using Chrome or some skin. Which they have used for a decade. Because the button on the left seemed off on Firefox compared to Chrome (always something). So fuck Firefox.

On hacker news.

Crazy.

Re: Firefox Is Finally (Re)Adding Support for Web Apps

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Post by nashashmi » Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 5:56 PM UTC

ctoth wrote: post #8

> Similarly, Rubino says web apps in Firefox will not use a minimal browser frame and will continue to show a main toolbar with address bar, extensions, bookmarks... Why is this so hard to understand? Why are they so against just making it work like it's supposed to? PWAs are actively useful and great and this is just frustrating.

It is frustrating to not know what url I have open. Some apps add info based on account .