France rejects backdoor mandate
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Re: France rejects backdoor mandate
#2Though it is a good piece of news (and those are not that common nowadays), some caution about the political context is warranted here.
The National Assembly is very divided a the moment, and the Minister defending the backdoor amendment is from a minority party at the AN, that just happens to have majority in the other chamber.
Also, he is preparing for a presidential bid, and has a fair share of ennemies, both in and out of his party.
So, all in all, it was a relatively "cheap" move from the MP who voted against it :
- it's screwing up with a powerful opponent
- it's easy publicity given that "spyping in whatsapp" would made bad headlines
- there has not been a massive terrorist attack recently, so the measure will not look urgent.
I'm pretty sure that some of those MPs, asked to vote the same thing by a president of their party, after a terror attack, would vote for the backdoor.
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#3Just like for other big challenges like biodiversity and climate change, it feels like it often boils down to the politicians just not understanding enough to take rational decisions. Of course they can't all have a PhD in cryptography, but they should also not have no clue at all.
Over an over again, politicians are asking for backdoors. To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryption works.
Especially these days in Europe, it seems completely insane: it is already a problem that most companies use US services, given that the US have become hostile to Europe. The sane way to go is to try to get better privacy for European companies/people, not worse. Adding backdoors just makes it easier for adversaries to access private data.
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#5Just like for other big challenges like biodiversity and climate change, it feels like it often boils down to the politicians just not understanding enough to take rational decisions. Of course they can't all have a PhD in cryptography, but they should also not have no clue at all. Over an over again, politicians are asking for backdoors. To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryptio…
But think of the children
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#6I’ve lived and worked in France for three years. There are many things I’ve learned about it, some good some bad, but certainly one of them is that France is a country that can show real leadership.
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#7Just like for other big challenges like biodiversity and climate change, it feels like it often boils down to the politicians just not understanding enough to take rational decisions. Of course they can't all have a PhD in cryptography, but they should also not have no clue at all. Over an over again, politicians are asking for backdoors. To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryptio…
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#8Just like for other big challenges like biodiversity and climate change, it feels like it often boils down to the politicians just not understanding enough to take rational decisions. Of course they can't all have a PhD in cryptography, but they should also not have no clue at all. Over an over again, politicians are asking for backdoors. To me it just proves that they don't understand the very basic of how encryptio…
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>Right wing international police apparatus will stop at nothing.
What's this have to do with right wing? Can't we have a civil discussion about tech impact in society without making it all about how only one political affiliation is always evil wile the other is always righteous?
Abuse on freedom of speech, spying and censorship is bad no matter which political side does it, and they all do it, so leave your political grumbles at home, this aint the place, hence flagged.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
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>Right wing international police apparatus will stop at nothing. What's this have to do with right wing? Can't we have a civil discussion about tech impact in society without making it all about how only one political affiliation is always evil wile the other is always righteous? Abuse on freedom of speech, spying and censorship is bad no matter which political side does it, and they all do it, so leave your politica…
Because tech and society, like everything else, is inherently political. Backdoors, surveillance, control. These are things fascist and proto-fascist societies try to achieve. And they are thriving as of late.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Right wing international police apparatus will stop at nothing. What's this have to do with right wing? Can't we have a civil discussion about tech impact in society without making it all about how only one political affiliation is always evil wile the other is always righteous? Abuse on freedom of speech, spying and censorship is bad no matter which political side does it, and they all do it, so leave your politica…
Because tech and society, like everything else, is inherently political. Backdoors, surveillance, control. These are things fascist and proto-fascist societies try to achieve. And they are thriving as of late.
Fascist behavior and actions aren't limited to the political right wing. Anyone can do it, you just choose to cherry pick the one you dislike under "fascism" and be OK with the fascist behavior that allies to your political views as being correct and justified.
Do you see any conservatives firebombing people's private property right now, or is it only the "tolerant left" doing it?
How much online free speech was censored under the leadership of the left in the years prior, all under the guise of "protecting free speech" and "creating safe spaces"?
One can abuse the "think of the children" emotional arguments to justify a lot of fascist totalitarian behavior and policies, all in the name of "good". Remember: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".