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FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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“Can you proffer any evidence that [the grant] was illegal, or evidence of abuse or fraud or bribery — that any of that was improperly or unlawfully done, other than the fact that Mr. Zeldin doesn’t like it?” Judge Tanya Chutkan said.

Judge Chutkan also ordered the Justice Department to provide the court with details about the alleged fraud, “because I don’t have the credible evidence that’s required.”

This whole calling things fraud without actually have any evidence is really starting to get old.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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“Can you proffer any evidence that [the grant] was illegal, or evidence of abuse or fraud or bribery — that any of that was improperly or unlawfully done, other than the fact that Mr. Zeldin doesn’t like it?” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. Judge Chutkan also ordered the Justice Department to provide the court with details about the alleged fraud, “because I don’t have the credible evidence that’s required.” This whole cal…

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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“Can you proffer any evidence that [the grant] was illegal, or evidence of abuse or fraud or bribery — that any of that was improperly or unlawfully done, other than the fact that Mr. Zeldin doesn’t like it?” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. Judge Chutkan also ordered the Justice Department to provide the court with details about the alleged fraud, “because I don’t have the credible evidence that’s required.” This whole cal…

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

A weaponized justice department requires the judiciary to respond in kind.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

A weaponized justice department requires the judiciary to respond in kind.

Personally, I've considered the problem to be a long term one and fixing it as a possible silver lining. I have to admit that I'm a bit of a pessimist about the integrity of the American people. I was wrong about what would happen with the first Black President, I was sure the racism was going to have a silver lining of cutting down the POTUS and not allowing a show like this. But the POTUS office is still the reason the US will kill itself at a minimum. (Nothing good can go unpunished?)

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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“Can you proffer any evidence that [the grant] was illegal, or evidence of abuse or fraud or bribery — that any of that was improperly or unlawfully done, other than the fact that Mr. Zeldin doesn’t like it?” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. Judge Chutkan also ordered the Justice Department to provide the court with details about the alleged fraud, “because I don’t have the credible evidence that’s required.” This whole cal…

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

The judge can request that the lawyers involved lose their admission to practice in federal court for serious ethical violations like the ones here.

However, this very rarely happens except in the most egregious cases where the lawyer is usually also disbarred for their conduct (i.e., Guiliani) so it's not a meaningful disciplinary measure.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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“Can you proffer any evidence that [the grant] was illegal, or evidence of abuse or fraud or bribery — that any of that was improperly or unlawfully done, other than the fact that Mr. Zeldin doesn’t like it?” Judge Tanya Chutkan said. Judge Chutkan also ordered the Justice Department to provide the court with details about the alleged fraud, “because I don’t have the credible evidence that’s required.” This whole cal…

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

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Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing

> to try and revert something from under the previous administration

More-importantly, it's nowhere close to "normal" try-to-reverts, where one President tries to replace an equally "soft" policy put in place by another President.

Here the newly-installed crooks are trying to deny a hard "money shall be spent on X" law passed by Congress, which is an unconstitutional attempt to seize the "power of the purse".

Same legal-vibes as if Trump declared people on his Friends List were exempt from taxes.

Re: FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to claw back climate money

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The minimum to cause change is judges expending more effort on imprisoning law enforcement agents for perjury.

The judge can request that the lawyers involved lose their admission to practice in federal court for serious ethical violations like the ones here. However, this very rarely happens except in the most egregious cases where the lawyer is usually also disbarred for their conduct (i.e., Guiliani) so it's not a meaningful disciplinary measure.

Funnily enough, a Trump crony is running to head the DC bar…

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-...

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