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Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by ykonstant »

I am not even going to read the diff. Temporary backpedaling, small or big, is irrelevant. The people who made the original decisions still steer Mozilla and their intent is clear. I switched to Librewolf (other forks may work just as well) while doing my best to support Ladybird and Servo; more independent rendering engines, more democracy, less centralization of power. We'll see.

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by sarahdellysse »

Notably, the do not reverse the course on the selling of user data. This is still a non-starter Mozilla. Do you not realize who your core base is? The only people who still use Firefox are people who value privacy and extensibility in our tools. Still a "no" from me dawg

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by alyandon »

Kind of in a ranty mood today.

I'd gladly pay to support development of Firefox if it were possible to fund it directly via something like a recurring subscription.

Instead my only option is to donate to the Mozilla foundation which lists the following salaries for their executives (according to Charity Navigator):

  Mark Surman, President & Executive Director - $661,886
  J Bob Alotta, Svp, Global Programs - $417,327
  Angela Plohman, Coo, Secretary & Treasurer - $415,549
  Ashley Boyd, Svp, Global Advocacy - $368,445
No thanks. While I don't expect people to work for free there is no way I'm going to make charitable contributions that support those kinds of salaries considering their failed stewardship of Firefox.

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by dismalaf »

Mozilla is done. Organisations can't just lose 80%+ of the revenue they've budgeted around for years... Mozilla has no credible path to recovering their Google revenue without massive commercial monetisation schemes which their core clientele has no appetite for.

Anyhow, for me it doesn't matter. Firefox is open in concept only, it's controlled by a weird NGO. I've switched to Vivaldi which is controlled by a company that only cares about doing a browser, nothing else. It's also got an open-source core, all the front-end code is visible even if it's not officially 100% open source (Firefox has closed source backend bits anyway). Also based in Europe, which matters a lot to me currently due to world politics.

Re: Mozilla reverses course on its terms of use

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Post by gruez »

alyandon wrote: post #7

Kind of in a ranty mood today. I'd gladly pay to support development of Firefox if it were possible to fund it directly via something like a recurring subscription. Instead my only option is to donate to the Mozilla foundation which lists the following salaries for their executives (according to Charity Navigator): Mark Surman, President & Executive Director - $661,886 J Bob Alotta, Svp, Global Programs - $417,327 An…

Are those supposed to be high? What's a reasonable salary for executives? The same site lists the following salaries for American Red Cross:

Gail Mcgovern, President & Ceo $859,260

Clifford Holtz, Chief Operating Officer $749,814

Chris Hrouda, President Of Biomedical Services $696,337

Shaun Gilmore, Chief Transformation Officer $619,929

Brian Rhoa, Chief Investment Officer $610,239

Is there any indication Mozilla's salaries are too high aside from "higher pay than FAANG engineers"?

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