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Re: A bold but simple login system

#2
This would drive me up the wall. I don't want to have to sit in my mail client, waiting for it to pull down the message that may-or-may-not have arrived at my mail host yet, when it's incredibly easy to use a password manager for everything without having to leave my browser. He bemoans the number of controls you need to interact with to log in, but to get to log in with his method, I need to put in my email address (or take the time to find it in the list), interact with whatever control submits the form, switch to my email client (at least 1 control, probably more), refresh it to get the most recent messages (perhaps more than once), open the message, click the link, go back and close the window I used to start the login process in the first place, then switch back to the window with the app in it. Seems far more complex.

I don't buy his premise, either; he claims you need to interact with "6 different controls" to log in to Facebook, but (a) you only interact with 4 of them and (b) that's only the first time you log in from that computer. He's trying to solve a problem I have never experienced. I'm curious to see if others have felt overwhelmed by the number of controls on login forms; this is a problem I've never had.

Re: A bold but simple login system

#3
having the user select field list all users is not so bad, but the email a login link is a terrible idea, this is a break is workflow worse than a password.

Even most incompetent users like my mum save their password into the browser keychain so it ends up bring only a single click anyway.

Things like browserID are solving this far more simply.

Re: A bold but simple login system

#4
Sending link to e-mail is exactly as dependent on third party as OAuth.

Non-power users (11 yo kids) maybe don't always have their inbox open/session active.

Best case scenario with one e-mail entry for multiple devices stand in conflict with link only being usable once.

Don't get me wrong, I think passwords are horrible but this post was just made in too much of a hurry.

Interesting topic!

Re: A bold but simple login system

#7
Thinking of it for enterprise users it could really work.

Enterprise users seem to be on Outlook all the time checking their e-mails so this would work if you can't tie your passwords into AD/Exchange.

Maybe have an option to have a token that can be entered or a link clicked.

I get all my e-mails on my phone so if I received a code that I can enter in my phone that can work. I could also click a link in Outlook and be logged on.

Now if someone has my phone which is receiving my e-mails and they enter the e-mail on a website and receive the secure login we got a big problem. I don't know how to get around that.

Interesting discussion, but some flaws. I would think it requires some sort of 2-factor auth to save people whose e-mail addy is compromised.

Re: A bold but simple login system

#8
Someone needs a history of internet mail. It was never designed to operate in real time or be fast, whereas people expect logins to be fairly quick.

Also, using an email backchannel and one time keys moves the security from an encrypted connection (assuming SSL) to an unencrypted SMTP connection anyone can view...

Back in the good old days of UUCP you might wait a day or two to get mail from across the globe...

Re: A bold but simple login system

#10
Here's an idea, if you allow me to choose From a list of users, then I'll continuously "spam" other users' inboxes with login link messages.

We could suggest that Facebook implement something like this. Seeing a login control containing 950MM names would be rather comical.

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