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Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by advael »

I'm not even really seeing the short term gains here. It seems like despite making grandiose claims, the administration and the "broligarchs" are relying on cheap political wins ("owning the libs/woke") to placate their base in place of even pretending to accomplish anything that helps their constituents. This honestly surprised me. I'm not a fan of the MAGA set but I genuinely expected there to be some upsides here and not just an immediate private equity style looting frenzy

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by baxtr »

I think the pattern leading up to this situation anywhere in the world is the accumulation of power.

A society that is able to spread power as much as possible is more resilient in the long run.

How to maintain a wide spread dispersion of power? I have no idea.

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by icoder »

advael wrote: post #2

I'm not even really seeing the short term gains here. It seems like despite making grandiose claims, the administration and the "broligarchs" are relying on cheap political wins ("owning the libs/woke") to placate their base in place of even pretending to accomplish anything that helps their constituents. This honestly surprised me. I'm not a fan of the MAGA set but I genuinely expected there to be some upsides here…

I read that as a preemptive counter against any argument involving upsides; even if they are there (possibly only for or in the eyes of some of the beholders), the division and abuse of power are a(n immediate) problem (and that's putting it lightly).

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by icoder »

baxtr wrote: post #3

I think the pattern leading up to this situation anywhere in the world is the accumulation of power. A society that is able to spread power as much as possible is more resilient in the long run. How to maintain a wide spread dispersion of power? I have no idea.

My theory is that (in current society) this starts with spreading money. That's not trivial either but it feels at least a bit more tangible to me.

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by pjc50 »

advael wrote: post #2

I'm not even really seeing the short term gains here. It seems like despite making grandiose claims, the administration and the "broligarchs" are relying on cheap political wins ("owning the libs/woke") to placate their base in place of even pretending to accomplish anything that helps their constituents. This honestly surprised me. I'm not a fan of the MAGA set but I genuinely expected there to be some upsides here…

The short term gains are things like $TRUMP bringing in a huge amount of money for insiders. The long term gains are things like firing the FEC, enabling erosion of voter rights.

The supporters aren't really in this for the money, they're in it for the blood. I don't know if that will change once some crisis forces gas prices up.

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by moconnor »

The post doesn't make specific claims but as a non-American observer (and without taking a position here) the major changes planned/in progress seem to be DOGE, deportations and tariffs. The proponents claim all of these are for the benefit of working-class Americans and not the elites.

Without addressing that it's hard to see what this post actually adds to the conversation. It makes vague assertions against parties unnamed that Business is not the Way to Run a Civilisation. Those that see a clear and urgent need to reduce spending, immigration and globalisation will not be moved one iota by this because it will not make sense to them. They believe they are already saving civilisation.

Re: Broligarchy does not build civilization

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Post by moconnor »

advael wrote: post #2

I'm not even really seeing the short term gains here. It seems like despite making grandiose claims, the administration and the "broligarchs" are relying on cheap political wins ("owning the libs/woke") to placate their base in place of even pretending to accomplish anything that helps their constituents. This honestly surprised me. I'm not a fan of the MAGA set but I genuinely expected there to be some upsides here…

You don't believe their stated assertions that e.g. they are genuinely disturbed by the size of public borrowing and the growing debt and are taking what they see as desperate measures?
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