5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows
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5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows
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#3Um, the airspeed analogy used up front is remarkably silly.
Nobody would shrug at being able to fly 2x faster. The reason it stopped is because it made lots of noise and was expensive. Not because it was not needed.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would not want faster flights if it could be done at reasonable cost.
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#4Oh boy oh boy I'm excited for the 5G shutdown when the phone I haven't even bought yet will quit working :)
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#5I was hoping to see some mention of latency. Agree with the premise that for most consumer applications we don’t need much more wireless throughput but latency still seems way worse than Ethernet heyday times in college
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#6Still using 4G over here.
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#7Um, the airspeed analogy used up front is remarkably silly. Nobody would shrug at being able to fly 2x faster. The reason it stopped is because it made lots of noise and was expensive. Not because it was not needed. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would not want faster flights if it could be done at reasonable cost.
If Tbp speed internet was the same cost and effort as Gbps/Mbps internet, obviously faster is better! The marginal returns on speed in most settings drop off pretty quickly.
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#8> Transmitting high-end 4K video today requires 15 Mb/s, according to Netflix. Home broadband upgrades from, say, hundreds of Mb/s to 1,000 Mb/s (or 1 Gb/s) typically make little to no noticeable difference for the average end user.
What I find fascinating is that in a lot of situations mobile phones are now way faster than wired internet for lots of people. My parents never upgraded their home internet despite there being fire available. They have 80MBit via DSL. Their phones however due to regular upgrades now have unlimited 5G and are almost 10 times as fast as their home internet.
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#9I was hoping to see some mention of latency. Agree with the premise that for most consumer applications we don’t need much more wireless throughput but latency still seems way worse than Ethernet heyday times in college
LTE latency is 20-50ms, 5G is 1ms, Gigabit Ethernet is less than 1ms, Wifi is 2-3ms. Overall latency is more about distance, 300km is 1ms, number of hops, and response times.
With mobile, I bet contention and poor signal are more of an issue. 5G is a noticeable improvement over LTE, and I am not sure they can do much better.
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#10Are there really use cases for faster chips? I can run all models I want on an H100 pod.
No models exist that I can't run with at least 64 H100s. NVIDIA should just stop.