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Proof of location for online polls

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Re: Proof of location for online polls

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> Latency-based geolocation can help protect poll integrity by:

> Detecting when poll responses originate from outside the intended geographic region > Identifying attempts to manipulate polls through elevated VPN/proxy usage

Unless the user also needs to complete a reaction-time test, couldn't this be defeated by using a remote desktop connection to a machine that is physically located in the other geography?

It just shifts which functions need to run on the proxy, from network routing to the browser itself.

Re: Proof of location for online polls

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Has this been tested, or is it just an idea. I imagine it would have some very serious limitations. Perhaps it could tell if you are likely in the US or Europe, but I doubt could get much more granular than that.

Starlink internet customers, and users of Apple's private relay (vpn-like service) would all be excluded?

Re: Proof of location for online polls

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> Latency-based geolocation can help protect poll integrity by: > Detecting when poll responses originate from outside the intended geographic region > Identifying attempts to manipulate polls through elevated VPN/proxy usage Unless the user also needs to complete a reaction-time test, couldn't this be defeated by using a remote desktop connection to a machine that is physically located in the other geography? It jus…

I think this is covered on the page

"Successfully manipulating a poll which employs this method would require following efforts and resources:

Gaining control over a large number of devices in the target geographic region for submitting votes through those devices"

So yes, it seems like it can be defeated via a remote desktop (or any proxy in the allowed area)

Re: Proof of location for online polls

#6

> Latency-based geolocation can help protect poll integrity by: > Detecting when poll responses originate from outside the intended geographic region > Identifying attempts to manipulate polls through elevated VPN/proxy usage Unless the user also needs to complete a reaction-time test, couldn't this be defeated by using a remote desktop connection to a machine that is physically located in the other geography? It jus…

Only a small subset of the IPs has proxies on them, so it would be detectable if a disproportionate amount of traffic is coming from them.

Re: Proof of location for online polls

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> Key Advantages: [...] Can provide supportive evidence for VPN/proxy usage, when the latency is too high for all server locations

I'm reading through the description, but I'm having trouble understanding the difference between a client having a higher overall latency due to bandwidth/connectivity concerns (e.g. a 3G phone) versus using a VPN. Both would have increased timings and the clock skew would be similar. Would both would be considered too high for proof of location?

Re: Proof of location for online polls

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Fantastic, solves the issue of bots from foreign adversaries. Everyone complaining doesn't seem to get it, it doesn't need to solve all usecases, but solving this one usecase is great.

Conversely, can this be used to show that someone is NOT a chinese/russian bot? I've had enough with people accusing me lol.

Re: Proof of location for online polls

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> Key Advantages: [...] Can provide supportive evidence for VPN/proxy usage, when the latency is too high for all server locations I'm reading through the description, but I'm having trouble understanding the difference between a client having a higher overall latency due to bandwidth/connectivity concerns (e.g. a 3G phone) versus using a VPN. Both would have increased timings and the clock skew would be similar. Wou…

No you read it right. The proposal is idiotic and Will resulted in rural voters being detected as foreign residents
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