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Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Re: Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Post by marcus0x62 »

mproud wrote: post #2

Are they claiming that since they own the Java trademark that they can own the JavaScript trademark?

No, Sun trademarked JavaScript in the late 90s. Oracle acquired the trademark when they acquired Sun. Netscape - as you may know - originally called JavaScript LiveScript, but changed it to JavaScript, at least partially to ride the Java hype train. Sun retained the IP related to the name.

Re: Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Post by gnabgib »

mproud wrote: post #2

Are they claiming that since they own the Java trademark that they can own the JavaScript trademark?

They own the JavaScript trademark, and Dahl/Deno were trying to get it released:

Deno vs. Oracle: Canceling the JavaScript Trademark (185 points, 1 month ago, 27 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42239263

Oracle files notice of appearance for JavaScript trademark [pdf] (107 points, 1 month ago, 84 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42323158

Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript (277 points, 3 months ago, 127 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41557383

JavaScript is a trademark owned by Oracle (157 points, 10 years ago, 82 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8344049

Re: Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Post by worik »

What are the grounds for invalidating the trademark?

> we’ll start discovery to show how "JavaScript" is widely recognized as a generic term

But "JavaScript" is always referring to the same thing, it is not a term for "in browser scripting". Am I missing something?

Re: Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Post by mbreese »

I expect that this was the predicted outcome? And that all we are seeing here is the beginning of the process, rather than the end?

On the face of it, JavaScript seems like a pretty solid trademark. But, to me, it’s really not clear how much control Oracle has asserted over it…

Re: Oracle Will Not Voluntarily Withdraw JavaScript Trademark

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Post by duskwuff »

worik wrote: post #6

What are the grounds for invalidating the trademark? > we’ll start discovery to show how "JavaScript" is widely recognized as a generic term But "JavaScript" is always referring to the same thing, it is not a term for "in browser scripting". Am I missing something?

> What are the grounds for invalidating the trademark?

https://deno.com/blog/deno-v-oracle

TL;DR: Oracle has failed to defend the trademark, or even to use it in trade.

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