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Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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Re: Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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Also > Trump says 'economic force' could be used to unite Canada, United States > Trump says Meta 'probably' ended factchecking because of his threats > Trump says Gulf of Mexico should be renamed to 'Gulf of America'

I'm already exhausted of this, and he's not even inaugurated yet.

Re: Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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I doubt it. Because the western premises and good faith leans on the non written law of not taking eachothers land.

Exactly what Russia did in Ukraine.

But that doesn't mean the guy is not doing it. The option is there.

One thing we don't know yet is whether US intelligence knows something we don't, in terms of China and or Russia.

USA has since 1942 I believe had the military defence over the island, so in that capacity its not something new.

Re: Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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I doubt it. Because the western premises and good faith leans on the non written law of not taking eachothers land. Exactly what Russia did in Ukraine. But that doesn't mean the guy is not doing it. The option is there. One thing we don't know yet is whether US intelligence knows something we don't, in terms of China and or Russia. USA has since 1942 I believe had the military defence over the island, so in that capa…

I mean, best case possible interpretation is that he meant "sure, if Russia was about to occupy it, we could do that" - avoiding saying "no way" so that nobody can say that he flip-flopped on it later.

In context, with talking about using "economic force" to force a US "unification" of Canada? I'm less likely to give him the maximum benefit of the doubt.

Re: Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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I doubt it. Because the western premises and good faith leans on the non written law of not taking eachothers land. Exactly what Russia did in Ukraine. But that doesn't mean the guy is not doing it. The option is there. One thing we don't know yet is whether US intelligence knows something we don't, in terms of China and or Russia. USA has since 1942 I believe had the military defence over the island, so in that capa…

> the western premises and good faith leans on the non written law of not taking eachothers land

We’re in the midst of the collapse of the rules-based international order. America ignored it in Iraq and Libya. Russia ignored it in Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine. China is ignoring it across the South China Sea, Hong Kong and Tibet. (For brevity I’m largely ignoring the Middle East and entire continent of Africa.)

The only ones holding onto the system for dear life are the Europeans, and even there they’re starting to wise up. I’m not thrilled about what’s to come. But it’s clear that just because annexing through force is de jure illegal doesn’t have much bearing onto whether it will happen.

Re: Trump declines to rule out using military to control Greenland, Panama Canal

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I doubt it. Because the western premises and good faith leans on the non written law of not taking eachothers land. Exactly what Russia did in Ukraine. But that doesn't mean the guy is not doing it. The option is there. One thing we don't know yet is whether US intelligence knows something we don't, in terms of China and or Russia. USA has since 1942 I believe had the military defence over the island, so in that capa…

Well the US invaded Greenland when Germany invaded Denmark in WWII and have had a military presence ever since.

The US also engineered Panama's independence in order to get sovereignty over the canal zone, which they completed. And then of course they actually invaded the country in 1989.

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I remember reading Frederick's Forsyth's Fourth Protocol where a Soviet Premier authorized a suitcase nuclear attack on a British base to get swing votes to vote in Labour, use their influence to withdraw the UK from NATO, expel the Americans and their nukes from British bases, and eventually destroy the Americo-European alliance.

In reality, it seems the American administration (both Biden & Trump) is working overtime to damage the cross-Atlantic alliance and the rules-based order better than entire departments at FSB.

Where do I even start?

Threatening the sovereignty of non-hostile states - Panama, Canada, Greenland. Continuously funding an unpopular war (some say, genocide) in Palestine. Threatening grievous sanctions against allies for no economically sound reason. Inviting Putin to "do whatever he wants" to NATO allies.

...to mention but a few.

Quoting De Gaulle: The truth is that the Americans will eventually make themselves hated by everyone, even by their most unconditional allies.

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