What Expats Don't Tell You About Moving Abroad
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#2I know this experience is not universal, but I do think it is underrepresented.
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#3Kudos for OP for writing this, definitely a view point which is under represented. To be the 'perpetual other' is a strange experience, not always unpleasant, but always somewhat insecure.
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#4I've seen this said before, especially of the Dutch. A high tolerance for Anglo migration but also a very intense sense of "dutchness" which is very hard to acquire as an adult and as the article notes you lack the familial and school links which bind people.
A guide book I read before a six month residency there said sometimes locals need to be themselves and not deal with you as an incomer.
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#5There is a lot of truth to this.
Having said this it helps you in terms of personal growth to immerse in another country, culture and language as much as you can. (If you view it as a challenge that you enjoy taking on, and you enjoy the target culture.)
One observation is that cultural distance is not always proportional to geographic distance: for instance, there are things that German and Japanese culture treat identically that British culture treats very differently.
Being an expat may be hard, but being an ex-expat is easily as hard or harder: returning after extended absence, and expecting things to be the same, you will find out that people have moved on, and that the good things that you were missing (perhaps over-idealized) may no longer be good, or may never have been so great in the first place.
"You can never come home again."
-- Bill BrysonRe: What Expats Don't Tell You About Moving Abroad
#6Similar sentiment shared in this week's NY Times: https://archive.md/WwK1J
my .02, I had a great 3 year expat experience. I think the difference was I was young and in a large city. While I certainly connected with many locals, other expats from many different countries formed my core friend group and I was often inviting local colleagues out with us.
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#7I know this experience is not universal, but I do think it is underrepresented.
as an immigrant who has lived in the USA for the last 35 years I still to this date feel some of the things here. my english by now is near damn perfect :) but every now and again when I meet someone new - depending on the words in the first few sentences I may hear “I detect a slight accent, where I are you from?” I am FROM HERE motherf^}%#] I think to myself…
I think also some countries are different from other in acceptance of foreigners. In Japan you will simply never be “one of them” while in some other countries you may have a better experience assimilating. I think the core issue here is that United States is just about the most unique place on Earth - everyone here is an immigrant. In my 35 years of living here there isn’t a single accent I have not heard yet. I know how people from India speak English, I know how people from Nigeria speak English, I know how people from El Salvador speak English… A French person is unlikely to know this and them hearing someone from El Salvador will sound strange - a true stranger. Most people in France are French, most people in Germany are Germans… (even with higher immigration from Africa and the Middle East…) whereas USA is like “what is an American?” To add to this:
America and Canada are much more accepting of immigrants than most other countries.
While this may be true for urban areas of the United States I believe this same post would be written by non-American coming to America and getting situated in some small rural town like Elmo, Kansas…
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#8I know this experience is not universal, but I do think it is underrepresented.
as an immigrant who has lived in the USA for the last 35 years I still to this date feel some of the things here. my english by now is near damn perfect :) but every now and again when I meet someone new - depending on the words in the first few sentences I may hear “I detect a slight accent, where I are you from?” I am FROM HERE motherf^}%#] I think to myself… I think also some countries are different from other in…
People ask me where I'm from - My reply is "I'm from a bunch of places, it's complicated - For simplicity, I'm from planet Earth"
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
as an immigrant who has lived in the USA for the last 35 years I still to this date feel some of the things here. my english by now is near damn perfect :) but every now and again when I meet someone new - depending on the words in the first few sentences I may hear “I detect a slight accent, where I are you from?” I am FROM HERE motherf^}%#] I think to myself… I think also some countries are different from other in…
People ask me where I'm from - My reply is "I'm from a bunch of places, it's complicated - For simplicity, I'm from planet Earth"
I am just annoyed I get asked - even though 99.65% I was asked it was genuine curiosity
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
People ask me where I'm from - My reply is "I'm from a bunch of places, it's complicated - For simplicity, I'm from planet Earth"
I am just annoyed I get asked - even though 99.65% I was asked it was genuine curiosity
To be fair to those folks, I get asked that when going back to my hometown after living years abroad. It takes very little difference to give off a vibe of otherness.