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Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen.

I wouldn't have thought that such a recognizable brand as the XPS line would fade for "AI PC" BS but heh

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen. I wouldn't have thought that such a…

XPS always felt like an unloved brand. I’ve owned some and they never felt like they fit into either the powerhouse segment or the everyday user segment. And the strange revisions to keyboards and things over time made it less and less attractive to power users. Dell has far too many models and it’s hard for anyone to understand what the reason is to buy any of them. It’s certainly not for the everyday user either - in every single way it is worse than the cheapest Apple laptop.

As for AI PC - unfortunately Microsoft has forced this on everyone. They used their influence and power to force Intel to agree to this branding and the conditions for it to be met (things like having a Microsoft specific “Copilot” button). And all the OEMs have to come along or face repercussions for these partnerships. It’s just another example of big tech having too much market share, capital, etc.

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I feel like the headline is burying the lede here: every Dell sub-brand is going away expecting for the new “Pro” and “Pro Max”. Reminds me a lot of how Apple in the late 90s got rid of their Performa/Centris/Quadra/etc. for more obvious, matter-of-fact names.

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen. I wouldn't have thought that such a…

XPS was never their professional product line. Latitudes were their workplace fleet devices that mostly went head to head with ThinkPads.

This is probably good evidence that they needed to simplify their branding. Having their halo consumer product compete for market mindshare against their professional products is counterproductive. Especially when everyone wants to cross shop against MacBooks.

In contrast, ThinkPad's X1 shares almost nothing with the rest of the Thinkpad's professional line, but it sits there adding prestige to the brand.

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen. I wouldn't have thought that such a…

>Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads)

I dont think XPS is a business / professional line? But I think I have heard similar complains from Thinkpad user as well. The only good PC hardware surprisingly came from Microsoft their Surface line. But most business dont use it.

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen. I wouldn't have thought that such a…

Seems they had good opportunity while renaming XPS to Dell Poor, Dell Poor+ and Dell Poor Premium

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I feel like the headline is burying the lede here: every Dell sub-brand is going away expecting for the new “Pro” and “Pro Max”. Reminds me a lot of how Apple in the late 90s got rid of their Performa/Centris/Quadra/etc. for more obvious, matter-of-fact names.

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Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I feel like the headline is burying the lede here: every Dell sub-brand is going away expecting for the new “Pro” and “Pro Max”. Reminds me a lot of how Apple in the late 90s got rid of their Performa/Centris/Quadra/etc. for more obvious, matter-of-fact names.

I find it funny how much they've just completely ceded branding standards to Apple in that move.

Re: Dell will no longer make XPS computers

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I'm not sure if it's just me or a common feeling, but XPS laptops from the last few years (at least 2020 onward) felt really poor quality for "professional" computers. Especially regarding their main competitors (mbp & thinkpads). All the XPS we had at work had issues and particularly bad battery life even before the one year mark.. For those who didn't have their battery swollen. I wouldn't have thought that such a…

XPS was never their professional product line. Latitudes were their workplace fleet devices that mostly went head to head with ThinkPads. This is probably good evidence that they needed to simplify their branding. Having their halo consumer product compete for market mindshare against their professional products is counterproductive. Especially when everyone wants to cross shop against MacBooks. In contrast, ThinkPad…

Im generally a fan of the Latitudes I’ve had for the past few years. They don’t do anything special or great but generally just work. The body gets scratched pretty easily and the power button behavior is annoying, but other than that I’ve had no issues.

Even got a lucky BSOD 2 years ago that nuked windows and somehow got me admin access!

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