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Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

#3
Really looking forward to see more non-destructive editing. For me this has been one of the major reasons not to use GIMP in the past. The integration of GEGL is a huge milestone for GIMP imho.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

From the second paragraph of the article:

> GTK 4 has been available for a few years now, and is on the project's radar, but the plan was always to finish the GTK 3 work first.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

#6

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

True but the leap from GTK2 to GTK3 is a lot bigger than from GTK3 to GTK4. I'm not sure when the "port" to GTK3 started, but if it was from before GTK4 was a thing, it makes sense that they wanted to finish the GTK3 stuff first.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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post #4

CMYK, finally. Hopefully this will lead to wider adoption, especially in the professional circles...

How relevant is print these days ? Coming from that background it's depressing to see my former coworkers working in a shrinking market, and the only people in graphics I know that are making reasonable money are in digital.

Not to say that it's irrelevant just that at this point it feels like it kind of missed the boat in this space.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

#9
Finally updated UI! I really hope it inspires more updates and brings in even more people, just like when Blender revamped their UX a few years back and saw an amazing boost in popularity.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

#10

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

Having had to migrate a very simple project from GTK2 to GTK3, I don't think it's all that weird. The migration was utterly difficult, in the areas that hit me seemingly no effort was made to give proper migration paths. Only with some later published documentation (+ help from chatgpt) was it possible to restore some functionality later, after the initial migration. Finally that even meant calling the xlib directly.

And note that the software used wxWidgets, so most of the changes were encapsulated there. Only a very small part of GDK/GTK was used directly, with wnck already used as a helper layer (but the functionality in question broke there as well).

So even if GTK came from GIMP, if the later development in GTK was not made specifically for and by the GIMP project, the migration must have been a nightmare. Especially in a project that had so many other things to worry about, non-destructive editing alone.

And to repeat such a migration now again for GTK4 will not be very enticing.

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