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Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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I visited a remote island in the Solomon Islands in the Pacific.

A tiny island, I walked all around the island in the water in about two hours.

There were hundreds, probably thousands of plastic drink bottles in the water and on the sand.

Every step brought fresh plastic drink bottles into view.

Humans don't deserve this planet.

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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Thinking that recycling would address the problem of plastic pollution is wishful thinking. Plastic recycles very poorly.

Companies like plastic because it means thicker margins for them, environment be damned; the proper solution is not to buy into the “consumers should be recycling” narrative but to thin out their margins so that using more sustainable and recyclable materials is financially attractive again.

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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While I understand the point, that and the classic "X company produce Y% of carbon emission worldwide!" feel very dishonest. They don't produce the waste for the heck of it. It is directly linked to our consumption. We want less plastic waste ? Then vote for more regulation, and sadly, this doesn't seem like the priority for a lot of people right now (which is understandable since rich country just send their plastic waste to poor country, they don't see the consequences of their action).

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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I visited a remote island in the Solomon Islands in the Pacific. A tiny island, I walked all around the island in the water in about two hours. There were hundreds, probably thousands of plastic drink bottles in the water and on the sand. Every step brought fresh plastic drink bottles into view. Humans don't deserve this planet.

While I agree with the ending statement largely, we have to blame the producers here. If I want water, I'm stuck with what's sold to me.

Most on this site are fortunate enough to be able to drink disposables and have it whisked away magically. It's when that doesn't or can't occur that you start to realize how much we all waste.

Single use plastics should have been outlawed years ago. Or at least taxed to high heaven.

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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post #6

While I understand the point, that and the classic "X company produce Y% of carbon emission worldwide!" feel very dishonest. They don't produce the waste for the heck of it. It is directly linked to our consumption. We want less plastic waste ? Then vote for more regulation, and sadly, this doesn't seem like the priority for a lot of people right now (which is understandable since rich country just send their plastic…

You don't need 'more' regulation, but probably different regulation.

So eg instead of having lots of piecemeal regulation that bans straws and plastic bags and Kinder Surprise eggs etc, you can have a single relatively simple tax on plastic garbage. The total amount of regulation would go down, but effectiveness would go up.

(You can give companies who collect and deal with their plastic trash a discount on the tax, if you want to.)

Similar for carbon dioxide emissions tax, instead of silly gameable things like CAFE car standards.

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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post #7

I visited a remote island in the Solomon Islands in the Pacific. A tiny island, I walked all around the island in the water in about two hours. There were hundreds, probably thousands of plastic drink bottles in the water and on the sand. Every step brought fresh plastic drink bottles into view. Humans don't deserve this planet.

While I agree with the ending statement largely, we have to blame the producers here. If I want water, I'm stuck with what's sold to me. Most on this site are fortunate enough to be able to drink disposables and have it whisked away magically. It's when that doesn't or can't occur that you start to realize how much we all waste. Single use plastics should have been outlawed years ago. Or at least taxed to high heaven…

I'm even more fortunate: I have fresh water that comes out of a tap. Very convenient.

> Single use plastics should have been outlawed years ago. Or at least taxed to high heaven.

Tax, don't ban. And make the tax proportional to the estimated damage.

Re: Five Companies Produce Nearly 25 Percent of All Plastic Waste Worldwide

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Thinking that recycling would address the problem of plastic pollution is wishful thinking. Plastic recycles very poorly. Companies like plastic because it means thicker margins for them, environment be damned; the proper solution is not to buy into the “consumers should be recycling” narrative but to thin out their margins so that using more sustainable and recyclable materials is financially attractive again.

Steel or aluminum cans might be better? At least they rust away and don't float.

I mean you could have a screw cap on a can too if that is important. Dunno why 33cl/50cl and whatever the oz. sizes are, are metal and plastic respectivly.

Using one time cannisters for water feels fundamentally unsubstainable.

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