Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
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Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#2Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, to protect individuals and organizations.
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#3Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
Should it be more or less protected than race? Tesla as a company seems to think protected class doesn't matter.
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/05/1043336212/tesla-racial-discr...
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#4Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
Should it be more or less protected than race? Tesla as a company seems to think protected class doesn't matter. https://www.npr.org/2021/10/05/1043336212/tesla-racial-discr...
> Should it be more or less protected than race?
Equal.
> Tesla as a company seems to think protected class doesn't matter.
I don’t see evidence for this. Sure any examples of discrimination like those in the article are bad. Is it deserving of $137 million in punitive damages that are arbitrarily decided? I don’t think so. But regardless of that case, I am fairly certain most people in Tesla and Musk himself feel race should be a protected class.
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#5Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies...
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m...
It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#6Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m... It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.
> concerns that all SpaceX launches would be considered military activity, shielding the company from having to acquire its own permits, even if military payloads aren’t being carried.
If that's accurate then the way they're holding it against him is making him follow the existing rules. But maybe that's a smokescreen? I'm unsure how to judge that situation.
But for the topic article, if he's going to be inside the group of people that are cutting federal EV subsidies, I don't think he gets to complain about not getting EV subsidies.
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m... It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.
> concerns that all SpaceX launches would be considered military activity, shielding the company from having to acquire its own permits, even if military payloads aren’t being carried. If that's accurate then the way they're holding it against him is making him follow the existing rules. But maybe that's a smokescreen? I'm unsure how to judge that situation. But for the topic article, if he's going to be inside the g…
I think tax rates should be higher. So does that mean I should have to pay extra taxes by myself and the rates for everyone else should stay the same?
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#8Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
It's not the first time that California government officials have held Elon Musk's political beliefs against him and his companies... https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/10/california-reject-m... It's absolutely disgusting whether you agree with his politics or not. As Americans we're better than this.
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Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#9Let’s be honest - we all know the “market share limitations” are just a construct to eliminate Tesla from eligibility, not something to actually help other automakers - which would not make sense anyways since Tesla has a better product and is the only one manufacturing in CA. This is obvious political discrimination and it shouldn’t be legal. We need to change the law to treat political views as a protected trait, t…
The 14th amendment equal protection clause can be used here to invalidate that part of the law after it is passed, if the plaintiff can find evidence from lawmakers that the law was about singling out Tesla, as opposed to it being happenstance from the metrics in the proposal
Re: Tesla excluded from EV buyer credits in California proposal
#10The entire point of the original credit, before it was changed in the IRA, was to incentivize new entrants into the electric car space. Just because Tesla, Ford, Toyota, and GM were able to play politics and get a huge incentive in perpetuity instead, doesn't mean California has to make the same mistake with their own implementation.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/manufacturers-and-mod...