Accountability sinks
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Accountability sinks
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#2Organizations exist to remove moral culpability
Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation
Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at night. Surely the Judge has few qualms going by the recommended mandatory minimum, after the jury, who is assured the judge will provide a fair sentence, and the executioner doubly so, with double the potential moral hazard, is certain at least two other parties have done their due diligence.
these systems prevent a single actor from acting. More like they allow a series of hand offs, so by the time the jailer is slamming the doors shut, they are bereft of any investment in the morality of the outcome
The firing squad, with seven guns, all line up, with just one loaded. The rest are blanks. Each man can sleep at night, regardless if the murdered man was surely deserving of death
large institutions, organizations and objects are scale are fully inhumane
I would rather have my jailer be my judge and my executioner be each man or woman on the jury. Isolating each of these things allows the individuals to have almost a powerless notion of 'completing our task'. As if all tasks completed would add up to a moral outcome
Should juries be formed to perform the whipping of an individual, the institutionalization in their own homes, the judge forced to starve a prisoner in his cell, i find the outcomes would be different
Re: Accountability sinks
#3Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
Our meat is bought from the butcher, delivered to the chef so it comes not as an animal, but part of a tasty dish.
If we eat meat, we should kill it ourselves.
Re: Accountability sinks
#4Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
“The blood of the First Men still flows in the veins of the Starks, and we hold to the belief that the man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. If you would take a man's life, you owe it to him to look into his eyes and hear his final words. And if you cannot bear to do that, then perhaps the man does not deserve to die.”
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#5Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
> Each man can sleep at night, regardless if the murdered man was surely deserving of death
Surely this line of reasoning requires the presence of omniscient judgement (ie the abrahamic god) to make sense. Otherwise all gunmen would (and should) assume practical responsibility
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#6closely related but in reverse: subsidiarity.
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#7Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
The right to a trial by jury was specifically meant to prevent personal bias from the judge affecting the outcome of the trial.
Letting juries perform executions and judges be responsible for the imprisonment of the guilty just creates a massive perverse incentive for sadistic individuals.
You wrongly assume that either judge or jury would be more empathetic if they were burdened with the weight of these things. Instead, you'll get the people you least want in charge of these things doing them.
Aside from the method of using blanks at executions, everything else about the system protects the convicted, not the people in the system itself.
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#8I was thinking about something similar today. Sometimes accountability can be a blocker, for example for hiring.
If you have 1 candidate, it's an easy call, if you have 3 candidates, you evaluate in less than a week. If you have 200 candidates, you need to hire somebody to sift through the resumes, have like 5 rounds on interview and everybody chiming in, whoever pulls the trigger or recommends someone is now on the hook for their performance.
You can't evaluate all the information and make an informed decision, the optimal strategy is to flip a 100 sided die, but no one is going to be on the hook for that.
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#9Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
Our meat is bought from the butcher, delivered to the chef so it comes not as an animal, but part of a tasty dish. If we eat meat, we should kill it ourselves.
I get a lot of shit for saying this, but I agree completely!
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with eating animals. But I have a particularly carnivorous friend who thinks hunting is for sociopaths, because he “loves animals”.
If I wouldn’t harvest it, I won’t eat it. And I definitely would be too timid to slaughter a freaking cow lol
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#10Organizations exist to remove moral culpability Judge, Jury and Executioner Firing Squad Limited Liability Organisation Humans like to sleep at night. An emergent property of our rule of law is that it exists in a way to reduce the moral culpability of any individual. A police man, a jury member, a judge, a inspector, an executioner, a jailer, they all exist in very neat boxes. These boxes allow them to sleep at nigh…
I agree with the description. But make no judgment of its morality or pretend to have a better system, no shred of humility in that.
Of course you can run a political party suggesting that this division of powers thing was a step in the wrong direction, or better yet, take a trip to any of the dozens of countries with superdictators.