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Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#4

Post by divbzero »

I love the order of tutorial, starting simple to deploy something first:

1. Use Notepad/TextEdit to create a plain text index.html.

2. Deploy index.html to Neocities or similar.

3. Add content with headings and images.

And only then going back to:

4. Make it proper HTML with and .

5. Upgrade Notepad/TextEdit to Visual Studio Code.

Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#5

Post by aardvark179 »

Why, “Start coding already!” rather than something like, “Start writing already?” I think half the barrier to people building sites is that they think they need to know how to code, and that seems scary, but they do know what they want to write, and that seems more approachable.

Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#6

Post by autoexec »

henning wrote: post #3

This is great. I love you how started with a tiny HTML file and didn't immediately ask the user to install NodeJS and VS Code and a ton of other webdev shit.

This is a lesson that a lot of professionals could stand to relearn. They don't actually need hundreds of MBs of JS to display basic text and images. Accessibility and failing gracefully are way too often ignored.

Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#7

Post by mightybyte »

I think the fundamental approach being taken by this project is immensely valuable to the world. This kind of education about open standards might actually be the most powerful tool that can help us take steps in the direction away from giant opaque corporations and back towards the systems based on open standards that the internet originated from. I really hope this project continues to be updated and get more and more eyes and contributors. If you feel the same way, I'd say at least throw it a GitHub star. https://github.com/blakewatson/htmlforpeople

(Note: I have nothing to do with this project thus far and have nothing to gain from saying this.)

Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#8

Post by simonw »

This is great. The decision to skip CSS by depending on https://simplecss.org/ is smart - CSS is a whole other thing, and having that on top of basic HTML would be pretty intimidating.

I did worry a bit about https://htmlforpeople.com/zero-to-internet-your-first-websit... - "Step 1. Create a folder on your computer" - because apparently a large number of people these days don't understand files and folders at all! https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-direc...

Not sure how best to approach that though. Having a whole chapter of the book explaining files and folders feels pretty redundant. Maybe there's something good you could link to?

Re: Show HN: HTML for People

#10

Post by have_faith »

divbzero wrote: post #4

I love the order of tutorial, starting simple to deploy something first: 1. Use Notepad/TextEdit to create a plain text index.html . 2. Deploy index.html to Neocities or similar. 3. Add content with headings and images. And only then going back to: 4. Make it proper HTML with and . 5. Upgrade Notepad/TextEdit to Visual Studio Code.

You're probably already aware, but , and is optional in HTML5, so it's a "proper" document without them.
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