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Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus.

So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services?

Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adcopy writing).

But, Anthropic definitely has a commercial motive... no?

I'm not saying a commercial motive is a bad thing - hardly... but this quote seems to be odd given the circumstances.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Always trippy for us apocalyptic optimists to read coverage about safety concerns and consolidating power in AI firms that reads exactly like these companies have been reporting for 20 years for smart phone apps, B2B SASS battles, and hospitality industry schemes. Reminds me of today's articles on the escalating war involving at least one nuclear power mentioning the Dow Jones as the fourth bullet point, but on an even larger and more ridiculous scale.

Godspeed to Anthropic! Hopefully they can be a force for good, despite the various deals with the devil that they've taken. They've lost so many safety and e/acc people that I was getting dubious, but they certainly are staying in the fight.

Shame they're already for-profit... But don't worry, they Pinky Promise to be For The Public Benefit :)

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus. So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services? Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adc…

Can you go into more depth why you believe Claude is better @ creating adcopy

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus. So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services? Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adc…

You're absolutely correct that they're a for-profit firm, but you're missing that they were founded specifically over safety concerns. Basically it's not just "commercial motive" in general, it's the sense that OpenAI was only paying lipservice to safety work as a marketing move.

For example, here's their research mission: https://www.anthropic.com/research

And an example of one of their early research focuses, Constitutional AI: https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.08073

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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Seems to me that the only difference between Anthropic and OpenAI is that Anthropic was for-profit from day one and OpenAI is from day yesterday. I pay for both, and pretty sure they will do everything they can to take as much money from me that they can get away with.

This shouldnt be news.

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> Anthropic’s CEO, Dario Amodei, was once the VP of research at OpenAI, and reportedly split with the firm after a disagreement over OpenAI’s roadmap — namely its growing commercial focus. So he's now the CEO of Anthropic, a company selling AI services? Claude is amazing, and we use it's Teams plan here at the office extensively (having switched from ChatGPT since Claude is vastly better at technical material and adc…

Can you go into more depth why you believe Claude is better @ creating adcopy

In my experience it is better at not sounding like an LLM wrote it, even without being directed to not sound like an LLM. It's better able to find and maintain the desired tone (playfulness, silly, professional, a mixture of, etc) with minor prompting. It also seems better at understanding your business/company and helping craft adcopy that's on-message/theme.

We used ChatGPT's Teams plan too with GPT4, but were sold on Claude almost immediately. Admittedly we have not used GPT4o recently, so we can't compare.

With technical information, Claude is vastly better at providing accurate information, even about lesser-known languages/stacks. For example, it's ability to discuss and review code written in Gleam, Svelte, TypeSpec and others is impressive. It is also, in our experience, vastly better at "guided/exploratory learning" - where you probe questions as you go down a rabbit hole.

Is it always accurate? Of course not, but we've found it to be on average better at those tasks than ChatGPT.

Re: Anthropic hires OpenAI co-founder Durk Kingma

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As somebody new to Claude, can anybody give me tips for how to optimally use Claude as opposed to habits formed with ChatGPT? For example, my main concern is the limiting of messages over a given time period, even for paid accounts. I have often used ChatGPT for very specific questions/answers, but sending a large collection of "drill-down" follow up questions can burn through my Claude messages pretty quickly? Is it as simple as composing longer, more fleshed out prompts to begin with (addressing follow ups ahead of time?) or is this where something like Projects helps? Thanks for any feedback!
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