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Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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> Clearview AI does not have a place of business in the Netherlands or the EU, it does not have any customers in the Netherlands or the EU, and does not undertake any activities that would otherwise mean it is subject to the GDPR

That’s cute. I wonder where all the faces are coming from.

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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If identification of dutch citizens are a part of the product for services rendered by Clearview AI, they should be punished severely for this. Same goes with any country, or person, who doesn't want to be a part of their scheme.

Since they don't operate directly in the EU, there is not much else they can do aside from collaborating with other countries DPAs to ban any EU company from integrating with them (per the article currently only companies in the Netherlands are banned).

Even the fine itself is a bit problematic because it looks like unenforceable as they don't operate in the EU thus not subject to EU law.

However if it were to be discovered that the user images where not only retrieved by scrapping publicly available information, but involved data brokerage or other forms of personal information selling all those involved throughout that chain could be fined.

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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> Clearview AI does not have a place of business in the Netherlands or the EU, it does not have any customers in the Netherlands or the EU, and does not undertake any activities that would otherwise mean it is subject to the GDPR That’s cute. I wonder where all the faces are coming from.

The US and UK governments already claim international jurisdiction in some cases - I hope the EU starts doing to protect their citizens against this sort of thing.

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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If identification of dutch citizens are a part of the product for services rendered by Clearview AI, they should be punished severely for this. Same goes with any country, or person, who doesn't want to be a part of their scheme.

Since they don't operate directly in the EU, there is not much else they can do aside from collaborating with other countries DPAs to ban any EU company from integrating with them (per the article currently only companies in the Netherlands are banned). Even the fine itself is a bit problematic because it looks like unenforceable as they don't operate in the EU thus not subject to EU law. However if it were to be dis…

They can also arrest the employees of the company who is breaking their laws the next time they step foot in the EU.

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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I rarely root for EU’s heavy handed approach to tech regulation. But in this case, I am willing to pick up Pom-poms and cheer for them as loud as I am capable of

“Go eu go. Bankrupt those bastards and jail them all. Go eu go. Give it to them hard”

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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Since they don't operate directly in the EU, there is not much else they can do aside from collaborating with other countries DPAs to ban any EU company from integrating with them (per the article currently only companies in the Netherlands are banned). Even the fine itself is a bit problematic because it looks like unenforceable as they don't operate in the EU thus not subject to EU law. However if it were to be dis…

They can also arrest the employees of the company who is breaking their laws the next time they step foot in the EU.

This is not a practice you want to normalize.

Re: Clearview AI faces $45.6M fine in the Netherlands for 'illegal database of faces

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can also arrest the employees of the company who is breaking their laws the next time they step foot in the EU.

This is not a practice you want to normalize.

Why not? Sends a strong message; and also forces employees to think about what they are doing instead of passing the buck.

This is also not like some stupid patent dispute or DMA compliance argument. These employees are directly responsible for stockpiling personal identities of millions of people for the express purposes of making the surveillance efforts of their government easier. That's a very political action, which is directly aggressive against a country's citizens, and they should feel that.

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