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Why US Nightlife Sucks

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Re: Why US Nightlife Sucks

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Post by bluedino »

> Cars And Drinking Don’t Mix

For better or for worse, the Midwest thinks very differently about this

> Nighttime is stigmatized

This is true in the rust belt, as many of the shootings etc that occur are after dark, often at 1-2am, near bars or outside of places that serve or sell alcohol (after hours joints or party stores)

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Post by conductr »

bluedino wrote: post #3

> Cars And Drinking Don’t Mix For better or for worse, the Midwest thinks very differently about this > Nighttime is stigmatized This is true in the rust belt, as many of the shootings etc that occur are after dark, often at 1-2am, near bars or outside of places that serve or sell alcohol (after hours joints or party stores)

> Cities Bulldozed Their Nightlife for Offices and Roadways

Not mentioned directly in article, but America’s puritanical/religious history often manifests itself in a lot of these kinds of decisions. I still can’t buy liquor or even shop for a car on Sunday because the powers that be would prefer I was at church.

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Post by karmakaze »

It's all much simpler than this. Real estate development went for maximizing short-term profits and there was no zoning requirements to do otherwise. This and being driver-centric as a rule limits walkable neighborhood areas where nightlife would develop.

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Post by jmclnx »

As the article says, very simple, Drunk Driving Laws. In the "old days (tm)", anything went in the US, back then it was mayhem on the roads, with hardly no penalties (if you were white).

The city where I grew up (~90,000 people), there were many night clubs and bars, almost one on every corner. People from outside the city would drive there for their night life.

Then the Laws were enforced and changed with very severe penalties. Now, just about all clubs and bars are gone. But, cafes seem to have become a thing in the center of town.

FWIW, I do not miss the "bar" days at all.

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Post by oglop »

I’ve seen a huge drop in the last 15 years. I was a bartender long ago. Made good money. When I talk with bartenders now, they say it’s way harder to make a living, people don’t stay out as late or go out as much anymore, less tips and even then inflation kinda jacked that up for people. All in all it sounds pretty tough and none of them seem to enjoy it.

I guess I also stopped going out too though. It was the people. I just grew to not like the us population in general in public spaces. So I went from an always out guy to over the last 10 years a never goes out guy. Hmm.

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