Telegram repeatedly refuses to join child protection schemes
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#5Backdooring a social media platform to undermine encryption "in the name of children"... It's for child safety alone. Sure. ::insert eye roll::
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#6> Another norm that Telegram does not conform to in the usual way
Seems beyond a "norm" if your CEO is jailed for not "conforming"
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#7Note that only US-companies are required by (US, I guess) law to join these programs.
Also note this part:
> IWF said that the company did remove CSAM once material was confirmed but said it was slower and less responsive to day-to-day requests.
So in the end Telegram removed the content.
I think it would be better if Telegram used the hash lists, however I think that they should use manual review and not remove content automatically, because this is an US platform that theoretically can be misused to remove legal content that US govt doesn't like.
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#8> Another norm that Telegram does not conform to in the usual way Seems beyond a "norm" if your CEO is jailed for not "conforming"
"He was jailed for not following norms and we know he was not following norms because he was jailed" is maybe slightly circular
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#9I guess when you label your mendacious, snooping, encryption-breaking, backdoor sneak schemes created for the sake of easier mass surveillance as "child protection measures", moral alchemy turns them into wholesome good programs that only monsters would object to.
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Well, not to play the devils advocate but there have been several instances where most of Europe, including France, made efforts to protect children. Just in the recent conflicts:
EU is against genocide in Ukraine, where more than 500 children were killed and +25.000 children were kidnapped and filtrated in Russia. A deliberate action to eliminate Ukrainians and the Ukrainian culture.
In this case, Putin has several arrest warrants for crimes against Humanity and War Crimes in European countries, and other countries of course, and it will be a matter of time before genocide charges will be set.
They have also been giving aid to Sudan children.
Not to mention they have an unequivocal stance about child casualties in the war Israel-Hamas war:
> The European Council deplores all loss of civilian life. It notes with utmost concern the unacceptable number of civilian casualties, especially children, as well as the catastrophic levels of hunger and imminent risk of famine caused by the insufficient entry of aid into Gaza. It calls on all parties to take every feasible step to protect civilian lives.[0]
They also condemn Hamas terrorist attacks and their usage of Palestinians as protection, including children.
So I don't see that much of a contrast; they seem pretty consistent in supporting child protection.
Do you have better references for countries that are doing a better job at child protection than the EU? So we can have some contrasting measures to understand where the EU is lacking and where others are doing better - after all the EU isn't perfect and has a margin for improvement, it's quite a new organization.
[0]https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-humanitarian-...