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Re: Disenshittify or Die

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The current situation will continue because of the incentive structures. For-profit, and especially publicly-traded corporations, encourage owners and managers to optimize cost-cutting in the short-term. Instead, hackers should both form employee-&|customer-owned co-ops and join unions. Difficult to do initially, but it's how to minimize the threats of arbitrary layoffs, unethical customer exploitation, and craptastic, unrepairable products built to expire.

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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Honestly, my tolerance for enshittified products has become so low that I have stopped spending on things, foods, and poor services entirely. As in, I cannot fathom buying a shitty product for higher prices any more. It just doesn't feel....right.

Oh well, good for my finances and the environment.

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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Like many of you I use HN as a primary social network and Kagi as my search engine, etc. - but the relative unpopularity of these things shows that most users seem to be OK with their product getting enshittified. In fact, almost every time I tell someone I pay $10/mo for my search engine they look at me like I'm an idiot. "But Google is free."

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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> You can’t run your Ios apps without Apple hardware;

If PlayStation emulators are legal (like the ones in the iOS app store, for example), why aren't iOS emulators legal?

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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post #4

Like many of you I use HN as a primary social network and Kagi as my search engine, etc. - but the relative unpopularity of these things shows that most users seem to be OK with their product getting enshittified. In fact, almost every time I tell someone I pay $10/mo for my search engine they look at me like I'm an idiot. "But Google is free."

Google is still a useful search engine for google/youtube/etc.

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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> You can’t run your Ios apps without Apple hardware; If PlayStation emulators are legal (like the ones in the iOS app store, for example), why aren't iOS emulators legal?

What makes you think it’s not legal?

You can almost certainly make something like Wine for iOS legally. But it’s a huge undertaking. It took years (decades?) for Wine to become solid. And it’s a constant battle with new OS updates with new APIs.

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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post #5

> You can’t run your Ios apps without Apple hardware; If PlayStation emulators are legal (like the ones in the iOS app store, for example), why aren't iOS emulators legal?

What makes you think it’s not legal? You can almost certainly make something like Wine for iOS legally. But it’s a huge undertaking. It took years (decades?) for Wine to become solid. And it’s a constant battle with new OS updates with new APIs.

The difficulty is emulating the hardware, not the software.

Re: Disenshittify or Die

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post #4

Like many of you I use HN as a primary social network and Kagi as my search engine, etc. - but the relative unpopularity of these things shows that most users seem to be OK with their product getting enshittified. In fact, almost every time I tell someone I pay $10/mo for my search engine they look at me like I'm an idiot. "But Google is free."

I think Kagi is one of those things that needs to "just exist" for awhile, and then suddenly you'll be hearing about it from everywhere. Like a hipster band that suddenly gets used in an Apple commercial and becomes a #1 hit.
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