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the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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In Alabama the LCS was being built - it took roughly twenty years end to end to deliver. Aside from giant cost and time overruns since it was completed there’s been a struggle with learning to effectively use the ship.

All in all though seeing a tri-hull warship on your morning commute is a cool treat. It had been front and center of Austal’s hangar doors for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mobile_(LCS-26)

Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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I realize the answer to this is probably very obvious to others but hope they can explain it here: why is the US not nationalizing warship production? And more ports? The infra for air cargo (airports, atc) is largely government owned, why can't water cargo infra be?

Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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lower-cost warships. They have lost the ability to build horse carriages too, but then they are both kind of useless, and think of the money they save? They have saved a hell of a lot of money complaining while doing nothing.

"The labor shortage is one of myriad challenges that have led to backlogs in ship production and maintenance at a time when the Navy faces expanding global threats. " The Navy is propanganding into Fear, Uncertainty and doubt. They said the exact thing about Nuclear Weapons. So... if we do not build them, then diplomacy becomes more important. What would we do without global war?

Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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tl:dr insufficient pay to quality of life at work ratio to attract sufficient workers of sufficient quality. Expect the same article about nearly everything as the proportion of younger people decreases.

reddit.com/r/stupidquestions/comments/17ik4q2/after_most_of_the_boomers_pass_on_will_gen_x_be/

After most of the boomers pass on will gen x be blamed for all of societies problems?

Then another 20 or so years after that will it be the millennials fault followed then by gen z?

Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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lower-cost warships. They have lost the ability to build horse carriages too, but then they are both kind of useless, and think of the money they save? They have saved a hell of a lot of money complaining while doing nothing.

There are diminishing returns with cheaper warships. The LCS cost $400 million each but Burke destroyer, $2 billion, could sink a dozen of them. Aircraft carrier, $13 billion plus planes, could sink all of them. More importantly, the destroyer could protect the carrier from attack.

Small warships are useful for low-intensity conflict but Red Sea conflict shows that they need more defense and offense.

Re: the US Navy's warship production is in its worst state in 25 years. Why

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I realize the answer to this is probably very obvious to others but hope they can explain it here: why is the US not nationalizing warship production? And more ports? The infra for air cargo (airports, atc) is largely government owned, why can't water cargo infra be?

A lot of ports are government owned. Port of Oakland is department of Oakland. But that doesn't have anything to do with warship production.

The first problem is that the US is doing lots of new classes of ship and those always take more time and budget. The US has built the Burke destroyers for decades without much trouble.

The second problem is that the US has low number of shipyards. Opening up new ones or expanding existing ones would be better than nationalizing. But that would take a long time. This makes new classes worse because have to schedule space and that can screw the long-running classes.

The US should also get rid of the Jones Act. It was supposed to protect the commercial shipping but that has dwindled to only inter-US shipping. The shipyards should be made to compete, and maybe that will improve their efficiency. Or the shipyards should be converted into military.

Another suggestion I heard was to have Japan and South Korea build hulls and the US can finish them.

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