The Goths
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The Goths
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Re: The Goths
#2You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year:
From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture.
Re: The Goths
#3You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end.
I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence.
In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpCyNQ80JoE
Re: The Goths
#4You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
Eh it’s a big topic and the post was already getting too long. You are right that mall goths are less interested in the “ethos” of the previous subculture and more interested in the surface appearance, but I think that probably applies to every subculture of modern times.
Re: The Goths
#5You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
What is “substance”? Since Walpole built a fake gothic caste, it have always been about appearance.
Re: The Goths
#6You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
Naughties 2000-2009?
Re: The Goths
#7You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
So what. In order to be a truly authentic goth you'd need to sack the Vatican.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
What is “substance”? Since Walpole built a fake gothic caste, it have always been about appearance.
Fake? !! If you kick it, does not your toe swell? *
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone
To address your point fairly, the Goths of the 80s had their music and their appearance whereas the Goths of Tik-Tok have their music (that music of the 80s) and mostly their appearance ...
ergo more of the same with less and less that's original.
Re: The Goths
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a long arc with a barely addressed tail end. I read somewhere within the past few months an entertaining take on how Goth culture of Bauhaus and the 80s has little to do with Hot Topic mall rat goth of the 90's and even less with recent naughties Goths of Tik-Tok .. less and less substance, more and more appearence. In the Venn diagram of Goth|not-Goth there's more than a few lucky trifecta's, eg: https://www.…
Naughties 2000-2009?
I'm being slack .. post 2000, the years with more noughts than the 1960|70|80|90s
Strictly speaking, you'd be correct.
Re: The Goths
#10You might also find this interesting: a post I wrote on the topic last year: From Gothic Invaders to Mall Goths. How an ancient Germanic tribe gave its name to a modern subculture. https://onthearts.com/p/from-gothic-invaders-to-mall-goths
They say fashion goes in cycles. That cycle is ~ 20 years to start and ~ 30!years to complete, the approximate time it takes for a generation of teenagers to raid their parents old shit. Which just so happen to hit the second hand market around the same time.
1984 -> 2004 -> 2024. Emo and goth cycles.
1964 -> 1984 -> 2004 -> 2024. First, second, third, and… fourth? waves of ska.