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Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by gioele »

From the draft,

«The main rules of the Autonomous Internet DNS are defined as following:

* Rule 1: Each AIP network itself has a complete set of Domain Name System, which support traditional domain name resolution within the AIP.

* Rule 2: Each AIP network has its own numbered name that is different from the others. The numbered name is taken as the default domain name suffix when the internal domain name of this AIP network is cited by external AIP network. And any IP node's external domain name is consist of its internal domain name and its AIP network default domain name suffix.

* Rule 3: When communicate between AIP networks, the access to IP node of external AIP network must use the IP node's external domain name.»

Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by sanxiyn »

sern wrote: post #3

It's not an RFC, it's an Internet Draft (which anyone can submit without review), and anyway it's offensive and incoherent enough that nobody will take it seriously, and it certainly won't make it as an actual RFC.

Why is it offensive? How is it incoherent?

Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by mtgx »

I wonder if this is just because they would like as much control over their population as possible and they want their own Internet, as they would like their own "Twitter", and own "Facebook" and so on, out of a strong sense of nationalism, or because they are worried that US wants more and more control of the Internet, and could be why they are also support getting the Internet under UN's control (among other things).

Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by jcfrei »

sern wrote: post #3

It's not an RFC, it's an Internet Draft (which anyone can submit without review), and anyway it's offensive and incoherent enough that nobody will take it seriously, and it certainly won't make it as an actual RFC.

thanks for the clarification, I was unsure about the intentions of the authors and their capability to implement this proposal. however this doesn't rule out the possibility that China does in fact implement such a system.

Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by smoyer »

pmb wrote: post #5

We like this Internet, but we would like one without the "Inter", and possibly without the "net".

My thoughts exactly ... and by definition, this RFC is an Intranet (although on a very large scale). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intranet.

I've actually done what this RFC proposes twice before simply by configuring my DNS server carefully. Once I left an open wifi AP at a tradeshow that served our company's website regardless of the domain entered. The other time I specified that all hosts used the address of our proxy-filter so that there was no need to configure a proxy server on your computer.

I'd have to think it through a bit but I think these techniques would work on a larger scale (like a country). Perhaps I'll write an article about these unorthodox DNS configurations if people are interested.

Re: Chinese RFC proposes separate, independent, national internets and DNS roots

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Post by Torn »

mtgx wrote: post #6

I wonder if this is just because they would like as much control over their population as possible and they want their own Internet, as they would like their own "Twitter", and own "Facebook" and so on, out of a strong sense of nationalism, or because they are worried that US wants more and more control of the Internet, and could be why they are also support getting the Internet under UN's control (among other things…

Both, most likely.
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