Google's real monopoly is on the user data
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Google's real monopoly is on the user data
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Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#2They barely make use of it for things like gemini (or else their model would likely surpass gpt-4) so I’m not that convinced by this
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#3And they own Youtube...
That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#4And they own Youtube... That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
It's a scary thought to me that 90% of online videos are hosted on YouTube. If Google were to ever fail, I know that won't happen, but I think the internet would be truly broken if for any reason YouTube is down.
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#5> But the real question is, given that Google has around 90% of the search market share, and so has around 90% of the available user data, is the advantage it gives them so unfair that it should be illegal?
In the U.S. it’s not illegal to be a monopoly but to use your monopoly position to prevent competitors from entering the market. (This is why it’s not illegal for a small town to have a single gas station, for example.) If 90% of users freely choose to search with Google that’s fine from a strictly legal point of view. The U.S’s case was that Google was coercing that choice by bidding extremely high amounts to be the default search on web browsers, thus hindering competitors from entering the search market.
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#6Canceling the end of 3rd party cookies is also an abuse of their monopoly. Users should be given the choice of how their data is used.
Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#7And they own Youtube... That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
Eventually we'll develop an AI that, if shown every plumbing video, would be better than any human.
Right now there's a few million Tesla cars on the road, in principle all could gather training data and gather tens of billions of miles of real world experience each year compared to the low single-digit millions of miles that a professional driver would see in their lifetime… and despite that, FSD has yet to earn the "F".
Cracking the data requirement for training AI is high value research; I don't think anyone has solved it yet, but this field being what it is it may have happened months ago behind closed doors, or it might be something that's just been added to the HN feed while I write this, or we may still be saying the same things in 2034.
Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#8And they own Youtube... That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
It's a scary thought to me that 90% of online videos are hosted on YouTube. If Google were to ever fail, I know that won't happen, but I think the internet would be truly broken if for any reason YouTube is down.
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Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#9And they own Youtube... That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
It's a scary thought to me that 90% of online videos are hosted on YouTube. If Google were to ever fail, I know that won't happen, but I think the internet would be truly broken if for any reason YouTube is down.
Imagine if chrome had a bug that required users to reinstall it.
Imagine the falloff of internet traffic.
Re: Google's real monopoly is on the user data
#10And they own Youtube... That will be a massive benefit when it comes to training AI-powered robots I think. Conceivably, an AI that's seen every plumbing-related video on Youtube would be superior to any human plumber you can imagine, assuming a good mapping between the human hand movements in the video and its own robotic arms. And so on for other domains.
It's a scary thought to me that 90% of online videos are hosted on YouTube. If Google were to ever fail, I know that won't happen, but I think the internet would be truly broken if for any reason YouTube is down.
as an avid youtube junkie, I mainline it right to the jugular several times a day, and if it went away maybe I could finally find the time to tackle my ever growing todo list