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Why do we still teach people to calculate?

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Re: Why do we still teach people to calculate?

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It's interesting to discuss mathematical literacy with primary school teachers, mathematicians, statisticians, data scientists. I do periodically.

Primary school teachers respect core fundamentals as kids acquire "mental muscle memory" and realize they have to both create some axiomatic knowledge (axiomatic in as much as you know 9x9 is 81 from rote recall, not because of a belief in inductive reasoning) as well as try to begin an uplift to reasoned knowledge (that 2^2 x 2^2 is 2^(2+2) is 2^4) and some coding/transcoding (1/2 == 0.5) Cuisenaire rods come in and out of fashion. Crows can count. Kids are sometimes dumber than crows.

Mathematicians are very much in davis/hersh "what is mathematics anyway" -I believe Hersh noted that you can be in a field where only 3 other people worldwide can talk to you cogently about your work, and peer review is meaningless.

Statisticians are very comfortable that approximations work, but are less concered with accuracy at times, and very much concerned with methodology. I've had quite remarkable conversations with them about sample size, and how UX people can survive on 5 responses. I neve predict which side of the problem they're going to respond.

Data scientists are almost intuitive at times. sometimes the reliance on codified knowledge (numpy/pandas) and a belief in the p-jacked value or an obvious excel error is frightening. I think they divide sheep/goats into the numerate, and the highly visual.

I consider myself semi literate, mathematically speaking but in fact, I stumble over basic arithmetic all the time, and I struggle with ideas behind complex numbers, trig. I have to re-prove things which should be known, re-induce belief in things which are based on inductive reasoning, I question commutation all the time. How the hell can 2 x 3 be the same as 3 x 2 there's a fundamental left-right ordering in my brain which at times I ask myself is this inside the farsi or hebrew or thai or boudestrophon flow texts, suggesting that not all right-to-left ordered languages obey it yet alas I do.

I also still don't entirely understand why school focussed on trig so much given that very few of us are navigating by sextant. I suspect at times it was dividing us into the ones which drink from the hand, and the ones which lap from the stream.

Do they teach decimal to octal and hex and binary in primary school yet? Will the world be different when the last of the duodecimal measurement learners have died?

Re: Why do we still teach people to calculate?

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I stopped about a third of the way through, once machine learning cropped up (I'm biased against it, as I'd rather humans use energy to learn and practice than a computer do it, but I accept I might be missing something), but I support the first two points:

1. Define the problem and why we're going to solve it (in D&D terms, I'd say this is a wisdom check)

2. Translate the problem into math language (needs imagination and experience, which is an intelligence check)

2.5. Levitt noted the importance of interleaved practice; why practice a tool intensively for the test only to never use it again? Supported by the authors of Make it Stick: the science of successful learning.

That all sounds better than "here kids, learn these tools out of context".

Re: Why do we still teach people to calculate?

#6
To see patterns in things and to extend from the known to beyond.

While numeracy is certainly useful, isn't that only the surface point. The depth in deeper learning (we all learn - Edward Deming - but learn what?) is in shaping self and the internally and externally perceived worlds.

Re: Why do we still teach people to calculate?

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Because you need to be able to run numbers in your head for a lot of practical tasks, and inability to do napkin math can cost you very dearly

And calculators get broken very quickly on construction sites. And you must be capable of adding and subtracting and finding the LCD and GCD of fractions to read a tape measure in US customary units.
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