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Quake 1 potential original font

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Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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Way too many differences for it to be a feasible origin typeface. This post is based on a few similar-looking letters but they’re not even that similar-looking: the O, for example, has a different curvature.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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post #2

Way too many differences for it to be a feasible origin typeface. This post is based on a few similar-looking letters but they’re not even that similar-looking: the O, for example, has a different curvature.

This isn't viral mutation we're talking about here. An artist easily could have redrawn the O because of some issue or purely taste. There's a lot of commonalities and the article seems interesting and potentially correct.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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post #2

Way too many differences for it to be a feasible origin typeface. This post is based on a few similar-looking letters but they’re not even that similar-looking: the O, for example, has a different curvature.

I wouldn't put too much weight on curvature differences, that's an inevitable part of turning curved letterforms into a bitmap font. The letters would obviously have required significant pixel-by-pixel tweaking to look good on a 320x240 raster.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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Doubtless there is a font that inspired Avia and one that inspired that and on and on. This is the true nature of creativity. Not the mythical creation born of nothing.

> We have all seen proofs where faulty platemaking or light inking has lost all hairlines in a delicate roman. Raphael Boguslav observed the effect and understood it as a sophisticated form of stencil design.

Two clicks in.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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This isn't really convincing. The P, G, R and Y are significantly different and appear in both the Quake sample and the font sample. S is significantly flatter. The cherry-picked examples are the most basic letters and likely to have parallel evolution because of the constraints of that design space.

I think it's more likely to be a hand-crafted font, inspired by the general layout of stencil letters but no more than that.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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post #2

Way too many differences for it to be a feasible origin typeface. This post is based on a few similar-looking letters but they’re not even that similar-looking: the O, for example, has a different curvature.

Yes, the A in Quake is very different having a small bridge in the cross piece, whereas the font shown omits the lefthand stroke almost entirely to create a bridge.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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I think the A and the N nix this theory. It’s almost more like the Quake font designer saw this font, remembered the concept of hairlines reduced to nothing, but when they applied the concept they made different choices on which hairlines to apply it to.

Re: Quake 1 potential original font

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Doubtless there is a font that inspired Avia and one that inspired that and on and on. This is the true nature of creativity. Not the mythical creation born of nothing.

Agreed. I was thinking how, even if you somehow create something in isolation, all it can do is stand on its own. A thing created on top of decades and centuries of other creations stands taller, it has history and context.
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