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French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by snowwrestler »

Over a decade ago, a ton of tech companies (including Google) coordinated a “blackout the Internet” day of protest against U.S. legislation that would have required them to alter DNS to fight piracy. Interesting that now that France actually does it, they say they will comply.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PI...

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by zzo38computer »

If it is what public DNS providers do, then they should get a bad reputation and then people should not use them. People can make their own, and/or to just use IP addresses directly (or other methods) if they know what they are from other sources. You can also use the hosts file.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by metadat »

snowwrestler wrote: post #2

Over a decade ago, a ton of tech companies (including Google) coordinated a “blackout the Internet” day of protest against U.S. legislation that would have required them to alter DNS to fight piracy. Interesting that now that France actually does it, they say they will comply. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_SOPA_and_PI...

Piracy is simply Terrible, it's chopping the dear copyright holders off at the knees, they are frequently having to go on food stamps, and it's unclear how they'll continue on.

/s

Fighting online piracy: First world, or even zeroth world problem.

It's not loke the pirates are saying "hmm, should I pay exorbitant rates for this or should I pirate it?"

The real competition is alternatives: "should I bother pirating this or just go do some other activity."

Bottom line: In most cases it's actually free marketing, and has a net positive effect for the copyright holders. The continual attempts to aggressively clamp down really says a lot about the mentality of the Big Market Forces, *iaa, *aa, and now MS and Elgoog. Even when it's good fertilizer for their perpetual evergreen money tree, they still flip out.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by thejazzman »

steelbrain wrote: post #4

The title on the website is “Google, Cloudflare & Cisco Will Poison DNS to Stop Piracy Block Circumvention”. Curious why Cloudflare has been singled out in the submission title?

They're the most respected / most surprising?

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by 0xcde4c3db »

I personally have zero interest in streaming soccer games, but the process involved here does leave me wondering just how resilient 1.1.1.1/9.9.9.9 (which I use with https-dns-proxy because I basically don't trust the business side of my local telco/cable monopolies as far as I can throw them) really are in practice. I'm starting to feel like someone should bring back ORSN and throw some (cryptocurrency-free, old-school cypherpunk) Merkle tree or DHT magic on top of it or something.

Re: French court orders Google, Cloudflare, Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy

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Post by shadowfiend »

The only provider here who is stated to have said they will be complying is Google, right? So not only is singling out cloudflare incorrect, the title itself is incorrect. “French court orders Cloudflare, Google, and Cisco to poison DNS to stop piracy block circumvention” is the correct title for the article contents, possibly with an addendum of Google saying it will comply.
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