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The Titan Submersible Disaster. The Inside Story Is More Disturbing

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Deep-sea experts criticized OceanGate’s choices, from Titan’s carbon-fiber construction to Rush’s [CEO] public disdain for industry regulations, which he believed stifled innovation

Seems a remarkably similar sentiment to the e/acc types currently loudly influencing tech and business discourse on various media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_accelerationism

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous.

He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it.

Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability.

Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point.

> This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even returned to the site for expeditions the next two years. But nearly one year ago, on June 18, 2023, Titan dove to the infamous wreck and imploded, instantly killing all five people onboard, including Rush himself

which could explain why they sell tickets.

I'm sure SpaceX already knows the rockets won't make it back intact, but they still launch anyway (despite the losses).

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

Pretty sure the inventory of the parachute didn't take paying guests on his tests...

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

Pretty sure the inventory of the parachute didn't take paying guests on his tests...

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

The inventor of the parachute probably didn't take several people with him on false premises.

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

> Effort was good though.

... was it? They didn't test enough and the tests they could be bothered to do, failed. Then they shipped anyway and he got himself and several other people killed.

A non-charitable interpretation of these events could be made that it was an elaborate and long-term murder/suicide.

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

> Effort was good though. ... was it? They didn't test enough and the tests they could be bothered to do, failed. Then they shipped anyway and he got himself and several other people killed. A non-charitable interpretation of these events could be made that it was an elaborate and long-term murder/suicide.

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He already got punished by life, no need to blame him posthumous. He is like one of the inventors of the parachute (Franz Karl Reichelt), still wanted to try because he believed in it. Unfortunately believing is not enough when it comes to reliability. Effort was good though, as apparently it worked at some point. > This submersible design, later renamed Titan, eventually made it down to the Titanic in 2021. It even…

The inventor of the parachute probably didn't take several people with him on false premises.

#DearMoon (though, hopefully was cancelled instead of rushed, otherwise people would have died according to current state).

Pioneers can go to great lengths to overpromise safety, budget, and timeline to secure funding.

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