MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
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Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
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Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#3Been thinking... Why is AI even needed for a thing like this? Aren't there assistive tech API's for screen readers for people who are blind, that could be used to scrape all text from all windows, without resorting to OCR? Or maybe Electron apps break all of that...
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#4This editorialized title breaks the HN submission guidelines:
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#5Ok, really misunderstood that headline. I was expecting something about Microsoft shipping a Grafana competitor with 7x5 matrix fonts and 7 colors.
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#6I don't see why any response to M$ is required.
Anyone who runs a free software operating system is free to implement any such recording system they desire. These developments should be driven by user requirements, not in response to some new M$ feature.
By "community", it's implied that this is a diverse and disparate group of individuals and organizations. If any one of these desires to make or use a system, like the linked openrecall, then others are free to use it or not, or ignore it completely if they desire.
This makes no inference about the motives, or user desires of any other members of the "community". Which is completely different from the MS OS user "community", who are all bound by what the M$ corporation chooses to do.
This is an excellent example of the distinction between free software and open source. The point of free software is to facilitate user freedom, not just to share the source code.
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#7Been thinking... Why is AI even needed for a thing like this? Aren't there assistive tech API's for screen readers for people who are blind, that could be used to scrape all text from all windows, without resorting to OCR? Or maybe Electron apps break all of that...
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Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#8Been thinking... Why is AI even needed for a thing like this? Aren't there assistive tech API's for screen readers for people who are blind, that could be used to scrape all text from all windows, without resorting to OCR? Or maybe Electron apps break all of that...
because RAG at least in theory makes it really easy to parse out meaning from the data, that's the AI part
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#9This editorialized title breaks the HN submission guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.
The editorialized title is also seriously misleading; it's hard to square "how does the Linux community respond?" with what looks like a single-person project that's cross platform:
> Cross-platform Support: OpenRecall works on Windows, macOS, and Linux, giving you the freedom to use it on your preferred operating system.
(and https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall/commits/main/ to see the "community" - don't get me wrong, this might become a community project and get wide support, but today it's one person's project)
Edit: Also, the HN title seems unreasonably accusatory; something to the effect of 'MS invaded user privacy, and now the Linux community is copying that', but there is a world of difference between a company with a track record of contempt for its users and their privacy pushing something as opt-out, vs a community building something that opt-in - Linux is about choice, and if a user decides to use something like this and it actually respects their privacy (which MS claimed to do, but why would you ever trust them?) then I could see it being a great feature.
Re: MS makes 1984-style monitoring, so how does the Linux community respond?
#10I don't see why any response to M$ is required. Anyone who runs a free software operating system is free to implement any such recording system they desire. These developments should be driven by user requirements, not in response to some new M$ feature. By "community", it's implied that this is a diverse and disparate group of individuals and organizations. If any one of these desires to make or use a system, like t…
You're responding to the editorialized headline. The (too long to fit) link's title is:
openrecall/openrecall: OpenRecall is a fully open-source, privacy-first alternative to proprietary solutions like Microsoft's Windows Recall. With OpenRecall, you can easily access your digital history, enhancing your memory and productivity without compromising your privacy.