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Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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Re: Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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I've been watching EuroMoMo¹ since early 2020² and it's done a great job visualizing the stats. Especially if you break it down by countries and age groups.

¹ European Mortality Monitor: https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

² Blog post from Jan 29 2020: https://romanabashin.com/coronavirus-2020-outbreak/

Re: Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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Paywalled so I guess I'll never know, but in spite of the scary sounding name the associated press release says the following:

“Despite a large body of evidence from extraordinary efforts by investigators around the world, our committee found that in many cases, if not most, evidence was insufficient to accept or reject causality for a particular potential harm from a specific COVID-19 vaccine,” said committee vice chair Anne Bass, professor of clinical medicine, Weill Cornell Medicine, and a rheumatologist at the Hospital for Special Surgery and New York Presbyterian Hospital. “In other cases, we did find sufficient evidence to favor rejection, favor acceptance, or establish causality. It is important to note, however, that identifying a harm does not mean that it occurs frequently. Harms associated with vaccines are rare.

Re: Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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As a non-US-citizen my understanding of this is limited, but I see very little fact-based criticism and instead personal attacks and calls to "jail him" without even a clear case.

That in itself is strongly anti-democratic behavior that I would be extremely hesitant to support even if there was a strong factual foundation to the accusations (which I can't see so far).

Which aspect of this report makes you confident that MTG is "right"? What exactly should Fauci be imprisoned for?

Re: Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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Looking at that study for Pfizer and Moderna it's a slightly increased risk of myocarditis and shoulder injury at the site of injection. That's it. All other side effects they either didn't have enough evidence for or found that the evidence explicitly rejects a causal relationship.

Re: Excess mortality across the Western World since the Covid pandemic

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Paywalled so I guess I'll never know, but in spite of the scary sounding name the associated press release says the following: “Despite a large body of evidence from extraordinary efforts by investigators around the world, our committee found that in many cases, if not most, evidence was insufficient to accept or reject causality for a particular potential harm from a specific COVID-19 vaccine,” said committee vice c…

There is the "Read Free Online" button, though. I guess you don't want to know.

I find the press release very interesting, by the way. It is almost as if they want to assure people that their report is politically correct.

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