Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
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Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#2Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40514491
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#3Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40514491
Which is a dupe of:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40496967
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#4Google should change their algorithm to rank websites randomly; they all show up in search results with equal probability, so long as they exceed a certain threshold of relevance for the user's keywords (the threshold could vary for different keywords but would be made public and there could be instructions on how to meet the threshold requirements so it doesn't have to be a secret and anyone should be able to get their sites showing for at least one set of specific keywords). That would make it impossible to game. Maybe they could have 5 slots in a side container for 'Top trending' for those keywords for the current day, week, month or year (the user can choose the granularity). Problem solved.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#5Google should change their algorithm to rank websites randomly; they all show up in search results with equal probability, so long as they exceed a certain threshold of relevance for the user's keywords (the threshold could vary for different keywords but would be made public and there could be instructions on how to meet the threshold requirements so it doesn't have to be a secret and anyone should be able to get th…
You would game it by creating more websites.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#6Google should change their algorithm to rank websites randomly; they all show up in search results with equal probability, so long as they exceed a certain threshold of relevance for the user's keywords (the threshold could vary for different keywords but would be made public and there could be instructions on how to meet the threshold requirements so it doesn't have to be a secret and anyone should be able to get th…
You would game it by creating more websites.
But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure out site quality in niche areas.
Or Google could go with a lower risk approach of keeping their results as they are with their current algorithm, but only randomize 3 slots out of the top 10 based on this new threshold approach.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#7I was afraid of this. Now, it's a matter of time before Google search will get even worse as SEO hustlers push more of their useless crap to the top now that internal algorithm data has been published.
Guess I should look into that Kagi thing people keep mentioning.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would game it by creating more websites.
But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure ou…
Do you remember those autogenerated websites that were just giant lists of all words? Those disappeared many years ago, but if you made search ranking random, they'd come right back.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would game it by creating more websites.
But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure ou…
Why would it be difficult? Just copy paste content to different domains. And done. And for example if google decides to down rank sites that have same content on different domains, well, then you have a nice weapon against your competitors, just copy their sites lot of times and you got your competitor removed from google.
Re: Google confirms the leaked Search documents are real
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
But would be difficult to build a lot of websites which all meet the threshold for specific keywords. The thresholds don't have to be particularly low. In fact it's better if they require a certain amount of work to meet. So maybe only a relatively small number of websites would qualify for a specific niche keyword but the idea is that, among those, they are ranked randomly. You'd probably have to use AI to figure ou…
Do you remember those autogenerated websites that were just giant lists of all words? Those disappeared many years ago, but if you made search ranking random, they'd come right back.
In 2030: Do you remember those websites storytelling about their grand mother just to introduce a mathematical theorem? We’re so lucky they disappeared like the giant lists of all words, because they were 100% fabricated by Google’s unnatural incentives.
Google has the ability to change the face of the internet in 2-3 years. They can detect the chaff and shut it down, and I wonder whether it’s an anti-competiton feature that they require that websites write a thousand words per page.