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Microsoft's Emissions Spike 29% as AI Gobbles Up Resources

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Re: Microsoft's Emissions Spike 29% as AI Gobbles Up Resources

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I mean, cool? Really? Remind me how much carbon is emitted by workers being forced to commute to serve coffee to social media managers who are selling fast fashion to influencers?

At least they are causally linked to the workplace. Gigatons more CO2 from workers commuting to serve ego to their managers.

Re: Microsoft's Emissions Spike 29% as AI Gobbles Up Resources

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A good moment to bring up Jevon's Paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox)

"In economics, the Jevons paradox occurs when technological progress increases the efficiency with which a resource is used (reducing the amount necessary for any one use), but the falling cost of use induces increases in demand enough that resource use is increased, rather than reduced. Governments typically assume that efficiency gains will lower resource consumption, ignoring the possibility of the paradox arising"

As there's a huge crowd who seems very convinced of the idea that the solution to handle our resource problems is to be found in various growth and tech oriented solutions.

Re: Microsoft's Emissions Spike 29% as AI Gobbles Up Resources

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Microsoft has talked about being carbon negative by 2030, and removing all emissions they've done over the lifetime of the company by 2050. https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/01/16/microsoft-will-b...

Sounds good. Reciprocally though, my skepticism in various green credit programs has only grown over time. It seems unclear how many efforts out there are green washing credits, to not yet mine or make some display that doesn't help greatly. But I do think if there's any hope for green economy, a $3T company probably has swagger & personel to eventually refine & drive towards effective spending. Hopefully. If they can be true to these declarations. Let us hope.

Re: Microsoft's Emissions Spike 29% as AI Gobbles Up Resources

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I mean, cool? Really? Remind me how much carbon is emitted by workers being forced to commute to serve coffee to social media managers who are selling fast fashion to influencers?

1. This is whataboutism

2. According to the EPA's greenhouse gas calculator, this year's increase is equivalent to an extra 800,000 gas-powered cars on the road.

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