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'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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Ah, British press. It's a bit sleazy the way the quote was placed in a headline above a photo of the CEO of Palantir, who is certainly a douchebag but did not compare himself to Oppenheimer. That was some other douchebag.

There was some useful stuff in the article itself.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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post #2

Ah, British press. It's a bit sleazy the way the quote was placed in a headline above a photo of the CEO of Palantir, who is certainly a douchebag but did not compare himself to Oppenheimer. That was some other douchebag. There was some useful stuff in the article itself.

It is douchebags all the way down though.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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> I shouldn’t have been surprised by anything I saw or heard at this conference. But when it ended, and I departed DC for home, it felt like my life force had been completely sucked out of my body.

> More specifically, it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death. The vast majority of people there fell into group one.

> I walked out of the panel in a quiet daze.

> It was, frankly, jarring to hear a recent top US official defend Israel’s mass killing of Gazan civilians by invoking wartime massacres that not only preceded the Geneva Conventions, but helped justify their creation.

> On the evening on the first day, Palantir had a social event with free drinks. The only options were two IPAs, and I had one called “the Corruption”. It was, bar none, the worst beverage I’ve had in my entire life.

I stopped reading here about 2/3 of the way through but is this what passes for journalism? What hyperbolic nonsense.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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post #2

Ah, British press. It's a bit sleazy the way the quote was placed in a headline above a photo of the CEO of Palantir, who is certainly a douchebag but did not compare himself to Oppenheimer. That was some other douchebag. There was some useful stuff in the article itself.

A douchebag said it, but I'd say it fits the CEO pretty well.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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> I shouldn’t have been surprised by anything I saw or heard at this conference. But when it ended, and I departed DC for home, it felt like my life force had been completely sucked out of my body. > More specifically, it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death. The vast majority of people there fell into group one. > I walked o…

> it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death

Seriously. What a juvenile way to frame war. War is absolutely about contest and strategy—and yes, money—and it also causes death. It’s always horrible, more horrible than the belligerents imagined at the outset.

But it’s part of reality, like sickness and disease, and while I think we’ll eventually conquer it (as with those) it’s not something everyone can stick their heads in the sand about because it makes them uncomfortable.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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post #4

> I shouldn’t have been surprised by anything I saw or heard at this conference. But when it ended, and I departed DC for home, it felt like my life force had been completely sucked out of my body. > More specifically, it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death. The vast majority of people there fell into group one. > I walked o…

What are you objecting to? The way the journalist is using tone and centering their subjective feelings?

Or the account of how some government and industry leaders regard large-scale death as a profitable enterprise and are entirely unconcerned with ethics or the human cost?

Because the latter point seems highly relevant to good journalism. The first is a matter of style.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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post #4

> I shouldn’t have been surprised by anything I saw or heard at this conference. But when it ended, and I departed DC for home, it felt like my life force had been completely sucked out of my body. > More specifically, it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death. The vast majority of people there fell into group one. > I walked o…

> it divided attendees into two groups: those who see war as a matter of money and strategy, and those who see it as a matter of death Seriously. What a juvenile way to frame war. War is absolutely about contest and strategy—and yes, money—and it also causes death. It’s always horrible, more horrible than the belligerents imagined at the outset. But it’s part of reality, like sickness and disease, and while I think w…

Honestly the world would be better off if everyone "stuck their head in the sand" regarding warfare. Like quarantining disease, everyone just needs to calm down.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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Palantir's entire business model is taking on customers/projects that the rest of Silicon Valley refuses to. Not only is there an "underserved" audience, they get to charge a premium and for worse products.

The irony is that this is a good reminder of the harsh realities that Oppenheimer himself clearly grappled with - if you refuse to build it, someone with less scruples will.

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