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We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience.

Looking forward to see this applied to Doctors, Engineers, Pilots, Anesthesiologists, Teachers, Surgeons, Architects, Financial Analysts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dentists and Lawyers :-))

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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post #2

> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Looking forward to see this applied to Doctors, Engineers, Pilots, Anesthesiologists, Teachers, Surgeons, Architects, Financial Analysts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dentists and Lawyers :-))

Fun fact:

I find that, at least with dentists, the quality seems to be an inverse function of their experience.

I've gone through a lot of dentists recently (long story, but nothing to do with quality of dental work), and I've consistently found that the younger/"inexperienced" dentists use more modern/advanced[^1] techniques, whereas the older ones tend to favor sticking to what they learned in a medical school years ago, plus an occasional conference or such. As opposed their very foundation being based on more up-to-date knowledge.

[^1] Unlike in software, this often translates to "better", at least from my experience as a patient.

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Apparently this is somewhat of a problem in computer science for 50-something year olds, where one can sometimes find it hard to find a job. Companies prefer younger, more "malleable" candidates.

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There is also the general fact of life that experience often brings hubris & arrogance. This is definitely not always true, but it's another case where more experience is actually worse.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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post #2

> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Looking forward to see this applied to Doctors, Engineers, Pilots, Anesthesiologists, Teachers, Surgeons, Architects, Financial Analysts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dentists and Lawyers :-))

Fun fact: I find that, at least with dentists, the quality seems to be an inverse function of their experience. I've gone through a lot of dentists recently (long story, but nothing to do with quality of dental work), and I've consistently found that the younger/"inexperienced" dentists use more modern/advanced[^1] techniques, whereas the older ones tend to favor sticking to what they learned in a medical school year…

Would argue your examples are: "the exception that confirms the rule..."

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: I find that, at least with dentists, the quality seems to be an inverse function of their experience. I've gone through a lot of dentists recently (long story, but nothing to do with quality of dental work), and I've consistently found that the younger/"inexperienced" dentists use more modern/advanced[^1] techniques, whereas the older ones tend to favor sticking to what they learned in a medical school year…

Would argue your examples are: "the exception that confirms the rule..."

I don’t have a dog in this fight. (There are benefits of experience and also benefits of fresh ideas) but in no way does the parent comment prove the reverse of what they’re arguing. It is not an example of an exception proving the rule.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: I find that, at least with dentists, the quality seems to be an inverse function of their experience. I've gone through a lot of dentists recently (long story, but nothing to do with quality of dental work), and I've consistently found that the younger/"inexperienced" dentists use more modern/advanced[^1] techniques, whereas the older ones tend to favor sticking to what they learned in a medical school year…

Would argue your examples are: "the exception that confirms the rule..."

Dentists near the end of their careers tend to be very honest and less interested in unnecessary upcharges.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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>> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Great companies are built by people with drive and intensity, not by people with years of experience doing the same thing.

Hiring should be based on soft guidelines, not hard lines of gatekeeping. I'm glad some companies are aware of this.

But to state you want people with "drive and intensity" can potentially lead to people with large egos, conflict of goals, and unrealistic expectation of others (which can cause burnout). In worst-case scenarios they get promoted using this "drive" combined with contrived outcomes and over-inflated results. Be prepared for this.

I also wonder, when companies post these mandates, if they are looking for 10x workers, because they need a big win, quickly, for cheap.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would argue your examples are: "the exception that confirms the rule..."

Dentists near the end of their careers tend to be very honest and less interested in unnecessary upcharges.

Anecdata ahead: I'm about to leave a dentist after 15 years because I feel more and more like a cow with insurance payout for udders. She used to be good, but now seems like she's just making sure there is not a penny of insurance money left at the end of the year. Still got $50 left? Hey, how about some fluoride goo before you go, because "insurance pays for it".

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dentists near the end of their careers tend to be very honest and less interested in unnecessary upcharges.

Anecdata ahead: I'm about to leave a dentist after 15 years because I feel more and more like a cow with insurance payout for udders. She used to be good, but now seems like she's just making sure there is not a penny of insurance money left at the end of the year. Still got $50 left? Hey, how about some fluoride goo before you go, because "insurance pays for it".

One thing to consider if there is a shift in this behavior at a small independent practice you use (like dentist or veterinarian offices) is the aggressive acquisition of these firms by private equity over the last few years. Oftentimes the owners / partners get a huge payout and stay on as the face of the practice while taking marching orders from the new owners to maximize profit over quality of care. This acquisition is often invisible to patients / customers except insofar as quality of care declines, people at the office seem more stressed out, and more procedures get ordered that you don’t have the expertise to assess the need for.

Re: We are removing 'years of experience' as a requirement for jobs at Remote

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post #2

> I believe the most capable person for any position isn’t necessarily the person with the most amount of experience. Looking forward to see this applied to Doctors, Engineers, Pilots, Anesthesiologists, Teachers, Surgeons, Architects, Financial Analysts, Air Traffic Controllers, Dentists and Lawyers :-))

What do they call the person who graduated last in their class from medical school? Doctor.

Experience and credentials are only a small part of determining if someone is good at a job.

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