Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
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Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#2I'm not aware that Microsoft has a "return-to-office" mandate. Maybe that's only for some employees? I know quite a few people on product teams who are 100% remote.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#3I'm not aware that Microsoft has a "return-to-office" mandate. Maybe that's only for some employees? I know quite a few people on product teams who are 100% remote.
They reportedly have an RTO mandate for all employees. Managers can override the mandate, and can withdraw their approval forcing them back to the RTO mandate default.
I expect driving senior talent away is part of the strategy - the senior talent demands the highest compensation, which is what these employers are combatting industry-wide and in coordination. They want to hire them back at lower wages later on.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
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Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#5I'm not aware that Microsoft has a "return-to-office" mandate. Maybe that's only for some employees? I know quite a few people on product teams who are 100% remote.
If we read the article instead of just the headline, we see that it makes clear that Microsoft has a hybrid arrangement, and that said hybrid arrangement has still resulted in a loss of employees.
>Microsoft, which also enacted a hybrid RTO approach, saw a decline of 5 percentage points.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#6This makes sense considering senior talent has significantly more flexibility in switching companies in today's tech job market. If you are entry-level or mid-level and your company mandates RTO, well suck it up, because there are thousands more ready to take your place in a heartbeat.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#7Lesson Learned ...
If you take away an employee perk/benefit, employees get upset.
The lesson learned is, most companies didn't realize allowing WFH (due to COVID) would be perceived as an employee benefit.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#8But where did they go? Did they start startups? Join another big tech (if so, who competes with Apple for pay)?
There aren’t that many opportunities for people these days, especially at the senior level where titles and compensation is still inflated due to 2020-2022 grants.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#9All the more reason to have a union.
Re: Apple, SpaceX, Microsoft return-to-office mandates drove senior talent away
#10But where did they go? Did they start startups? Join another big tech (if so, who competes with Apple for pay)? There aren’t that many opportunities for people these days, especially at the senior level where titles and compensation is still inflated due to 2020-2022 grants.
They may have retired. Past a certain point you are in it because you love it, and if you no longer love it, there are better things in life than gilding the lily of a nest egg.