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Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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The ADA has for a very long time told diabetics to keep eating carbs. Their tune is finally changing, but no, they don't give a shit about anyone other than themselves.

One drug advertisement I’ve seen on Pinterest lately says “diet and exercise can’t treat diabetes” which may be true of type 1 diabetes, but last time I checked 90% of the diabetes in the US is type 2 and diet improvements should absolutely be the first line intervention.

Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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My hard and fast rule in america is that everything aside from unions do not work in the interest of the people. The sooner this is taught to our kids, the better off they'll be from being indoctrinated from the trash on instagram/tiktok.

That’s… honestly not a bad take. If we’re not paying for it then we’re the product, not the customer. Need to clarify that unions aren’t for ALL PEOPLE, just the people who pay for them

Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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My hard and fast rule in america is that everything aside from unions do not work in the interest of the people. The sooner this is taught to our kids, the better off they'll be from being indoctrinated from the trash on instagram/tiktok.

Unions also don't always work in the interest of everyone they represent. For instance, they tend to be protective of older and longer working members in exchange for limiting upward mobility of younger members. Or building policies that encourage the growth of the union as an organization, despite potential costs.

Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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My hard and fast rule in america is that everything aside from unions do not work in the interest of the people. The sooner this is taught to our kids, the better off they'll be from being indoctrinated from the trash on instagram/tiktok.

The more complete and histocally evidenced rule is that all institutions eventually just work to continue and/or expand their existence in itself.

They can get founded in the genuine interests of some cause (and often are), but each transition in leadership tends to find itself more professionalized in some way and more divorced from the founding cause, with process (and/or corruption) becoming their effective mandate instead.

Unions, sadly, have shown no exception, which is what allowed public opinion to eventually swing against the post-war batch of them. We could use some fresh unions in many industries for sure, but there's no truth in putting them on a pedestal. They're prone to devolve and corrupt just like everything else, and there are people who still carry the experience of having seen them do so.

Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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David Unwin is a real hero, things are starting to move hopefully for diabetics

Recommanded readings

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2020/11/02/bmjnph-20...

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2023/01/02/bmjnph-20...

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2023/12/14/bmjnph-20...

Those papers are the most read papers of BMJ nutrition whole history, and this is the top journal of the field

Re: Does the American Diabetes Association work for patients or companies?

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Classic principal-agent problem. It's why you can't usually trust experts who aren't aligned with you. One way is skin in the game.

But I suppose "if you aren't paying, you're not the customer" applies as well to nutrition and medicine as it does to free webmail.

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