The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

GNOME devs are only paid to care about GNOME. It's been this way since 2014 when they started breaking Gtk3 applications by removing gsettings the community used but they did not.

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

#5

Post by cullmann » Wed, May 01, 2024, 10:57 PM UTC

:( given the KDE developers (and other devs) did spend a lot time to ensure the applications they create work not just in their personal favorite desktop environment, this is all rather unfortunate, as it is now like it is in a released distro...

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

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Post by cullmann » Wed, May 01, 2024, 10:59 PM UTC

superkuh wrote: post #4

GNOME devs are only paid to care about GNOME. It's been this way since 2014 when they started breaking Gtk3 applications by removing gsettings the community used but they did not.

I can even see why they want that change, but even just keeping the old icons as compat would have been good enough, I just miss the issue why on doesn't do that directly after the issue is pointed out.

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

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Post by superkuh » Wed, May 01, 2024, 11:01 PM UTC

cullmann wrote: post #6

superkuh wrote: post #4

GNOME devs are only paid to care about GNOME. It's been this way since 2014 when they started breaking Gtk3 applications by removing gsettings the community used but they did not.

I can even see why they want that change, but even just keeping the old icons as compat would have been good enough, I just miss the issue why on doesn't do that directly after the issue is pointed out.

It's been 10 years and probably a hundred closed/wontfix issues on the GNOME trackers (this is latest: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5872) and the File->Open dialog in Gtk3 and Gtk4 applications still give an error message when you paste a file path into it.

GNOME business use cases don't get people using keyboard input so they don't care. In this case GNOME business use cases don't use KDE applications so they won't care.

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

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Post by cullmann » Wed, May 01, 2024, 11:06 PM UTC

superkuh wrote: post #7

cullmann wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can even see why they want that change, but even just keeping the old icons as compat would have been good enough, I just miss the issue why on doesn't do that directly after the issue is pointed out.

It's been 10 years and probably a hundred closed/wontfix issues on the GNOME trackers (this is latest: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/5872 ) and the File->Open dialog in Gtk3 and Gtk4 applications still give an error message when you paste a file path into it. GNOME business use cases don't get people using keyboard input so they don't care. In this case GNOME business use cases don't use KDE application…

I must confess we have a lot old bug reports around in the KDE project, too, therefore I can see the point that they might no set the priorities on such things.

In the most cases in KDE or Kate it will only happen if you trigger the interest of a dev (if it is no fatal bug) or you can provide some patch.

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

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Post by o11c » Wed, May 01, 2024, 11:11 PM UTC

Unrelated, but does anyone know how to get rid of the shitty monochrome icons that semi-recent (Debian stable) KDE uses by default (even for popular non-KDE applications) and restore the actual ones shipped with the applications (and of course, make the rest clear)?

I spent some time in systemsettings5 changing theme options but the only breakage I managed to (partially) fix was the titlebar.

Re: The Adwaita Icon Theme no longer follows the FDO spec, breaking e.g. KDE apps

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Post by cullmann » Wed, May 01, 2024, 11:13 PM UTC

o11c wrote: post #9

Unrelated, but does anyone know how to get rid of the shitty monochrome icons that semi-recent (Debian stable) KDE uses by default (even for popular non-KDE applications) and restore the actual ones shipped with the applications (and of course, make the rest clear)? I spent some time in systemsettings5 changing theme options but the only breakage I managed to (partially) fix was the titlebar.

I think you mean 'Breeze'. I think to have other icons, you just need no select a different icon theme, if you installed one, but please not Adwaita :)