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Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Very cool stuff!

"For the first time, the new enzyme cocktails not only remove the well-described A and B antigens, but also extended variants previously not recognized as problematic for transfusion safety. We are close to being able to produce universal blood from group B donors, while there is still work to be done to convert the more complex group A blood. Our focus is now to investigate in detail if there are additional obstacles and how we can improve our enzymes to reach the ultimate goal of universal blood production," says Professor Maher Abou Hachem, who is the study leader at DTU and one of the senior scientists behind the discovery.

Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

#4
Long time listener, first time caller (finally made a HN account)..

Anyways, can someone please explain how positive/negative plays a factor here? Rh +/- is mentioned once in the article but not discussed as far as being a donor. I was always told O- is the universal red cell donor [1]. Can anyone help explain is this enzyme fixes the +/- component in addition to the ABO component? Thanks!

[1] https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/blood-types.html

Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Long time listener, first time caller (finally made a HN account).. Anyways, can someone please explain how positive/negative plays a factor here? Rh +/- is mentioned once in the article but not discussed as far as being a donor. I was always told O- is the universal red cell donor [1]. Can anyone help explain is this enzyme fixes the +/- component in addition to the ABO component? Thanks! [1] https://www.redcrossblo…

That's probably a separate and harder problem from this: The A and B antigens refer to the presence of carbohydrates extending from the cell membrane, whereas Rh factor + refers to the presence of a protein.

Since there are different classes of bio-molecules, proteins may need different techniques to remove, alter, or cover them up.

If we do find such techniques, they may have much broader applications in immunology.

Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Long time listener, first time caller (finally made a HN account).. Anyways, can someone please explain how positive/negative plays a factor here? Rh +/- is mentioned once in the article but not discussed as far as being a donor. I was always told O- is the universal red cell donor [1]. Can anyone help explain is this enzyme fixes the +/- component in addition to the ABO component? Thanks! [1] https://www.redcrossblo…

There are three components that can cause problems with transfusions: "A", "B" and "Rhesus". A person can have any combination of those three (8 combinations).

The A/B/AB/O is basically having only A, only B, both, or neither. And the +/- is whether you have the "Rhesus" component.

The basic rule is that you can't introduce new components to a person who doesn't have them in their system, and will be treated as foreign contaminants.

So someone with all three components already (AB+) can take any blood because their system already is used to all three components.

A person with none of the components in their system (O-) would have an allergic reaction to any of the three components being introduced. On the other hand their blood is safe to donate to anyone else as it won't introduce any "unexpected components" to a recipient.

EDIT: ah, I see - article doesn't mention Rhesus. I guess it can convert AB- to O-, or AB+ to O+.

Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Long time listener, first time caller (finally made a HN account).. Anyways, can someone please explain how positive/negative plays a factor here? Rh +/- is mentioned once in the article but not discussed as far as being a donor. I was always told O- is the universal red cell donor [1]. Can anyone help explain is this enzyme fixes the +/- component in addition to the ABO component? Thanks! [1] https://www.redcrossblo…

There are three components that can cause problems with transfusions: "A", "B" and "Rhesus". A person can have any combination of those three (8 combinations). The A/B/AB/O is basically having only A, only B, both, or neither. And the +/- is whether you have the "Rhesus" component. The basic rule is that you can't introduce new components to a person who doesn't have them in their system, and will be treated as forei…

I think O is recessive (if I remember from high school correctly).

A is really AO (if we're being verbose). B is BO, AB is AB, O is OO. Each parent passes one of them on. So, a A dad and O mom would mix (being verbose again) AO and OO, and thus the child might be AO or OO, A or O.

The + or - is for an independent "Rhesus" component, as you say. Not sure how this passes through the genes. This is all like high school level knowledge, so maybe someone can share more if they want.

My dad had surgery and some paperwork we received said that he had AB blood. It became a family joke because me and my siblings are all O blood type. If my dad really did have AB blood then we are not his children. The hospital later confirmed it was a mistake.

Re: Enzymes open new path to universal donor blood

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Long time listener, first time caller (finally made a HN account).. Anyways, can someone please explain how positive/negative plays a factor here? Rh +/- is mentioned once in the article but not discussed as far as being a donor. I was always told O- is the universal red cell donor [1]. Can anyone help explain is this enzyme fixes the +/- component in addition to the ABO component? Thanks! [1] https://www.redcrossblo…

There are three components that can cause problems with transfusions: "A", "B" and "Rhesus". A person can have any combination of those three (8 combinations). The A/B/AB/O is basically having only A, only B, both, or neither. And the +/- is whether you have the "Rhesus" component. The basic rule is that you can't introduce new components to a person who doesn't have them in their system, and will be treated as forei…

there is also the HH blood group that will react negatively to O type blood as well as A and B.
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