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The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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When the richest and most powerful start sending their kids to public school then I might believe this.

Until then the title makes for good clickbait but nothing believable.

This tweet I read earlier today lays out the case:

"The best reason to go to a top 10 American university:

In a random class you'll have a governor's daughter, the son of a billionaire and two guys with 170+ IQ. It's a hell of a group of people to mingle with to succeed in life. I'm super anti-university but I'll admit that this alone probably makes those schools worth it.."

https://twitter.com/orrdavid/status/1784703997808455849

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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I don't buy a lot of this analysis.

>This week, for instance, Google — despite probably being the most progressive or Silicon Valley company, nevertheless fired dozens of employees involved in pro-Palestine/anti-Israel protests that resemble those on university campuses.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Google is going to start not wanting to hire MIT grads because MIT has a protest encampment. This sort of thing might make sense to someone with a political axe to grind, but it strikes me as completely out of touch with reality.

I interview a lot of candidates for highly technical positions. I cannot imagine a frame of mind where I would worry that someone with a Harvard degree is "More likely to hold strong political opinions that will distract from their work". Even if you believe this is somehow unique to graduates of private universities, Google fired 28 people over protests. Out of nearly 200k. There's just no possibility that worrying about this is justified.

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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post #3

When the richest and most powerful start sending their kids to public school then I might believe this. Until then the title makes for good clickbait but nothing believable. This tweet I read earlier today lays out the case: "The best reason to go to a top 10 American university: In a random class you'll have a governor's daughter, the son of a billionaire and two guys with 170+ IQ. It's a hell of a group of people t…

The richest can pay 20x more for something only slightly better and genuinely think it's a great deal.

You can't.

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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I'd say its the exception that you should not go Ivy/elite if you get in. Ivy Leagues have experiences/opportunities that simply are not replicated at state schools.

Yes for determined/driven individuals, it may not matter all that much. And if you are not going to take advantage of what those elites have to offer, maybe you should reconsider if the financial burden is too high.

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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post #4

I don't buy a lot of this analysis. >This week, for instance, Google — despite probably being the most progressive or Silicon Valley company, nevertheless fired dozens of employees involved in pro-Palestine/anti-Israel protests that resemble those on university campuses. I find it extremely hard to believe that Google is going to start not wanting to hire MIT grads because MIT has a protest encampment. This sort of t…

> hard to believe that Google is going to start not wanting to hire MIT grads because MIT has a protest encampment

There was a time when Google wouldn't consider a candidate if they weren't from MIT. The loss of that monopoly is the point. You aren't disadvantaged going to MIT today relative to a few decades ago. You're just not as relatively advantaged as you once were.

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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post #3

When the richest and most powerful start sending their kids to public school then I might believe this. Until then the title makes for good clickbait but nothing believable. This tweet I read earlier today lays out the case: "The best reason to go to a top 10 American university: In a random class you'll have a governor's daughter, the son of a billionaire and two guys with 170+ IQ. It's a hell of a group of people t…

The richest can pay 20x more for something only slightly better and genuinely think it's a great deal. You can't.

But if you make friends with those rich kids may open opportunities you would not otherwise have.

Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

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post #3

When the richest and most powerful start sending their kids to public school then I might believe this. Until then the title makes for good clickbait but nothing believable. This tweet I read earlier today lays out the case: "The best reason to go to a top 10 American university: In a random class you'll have a governor's daughter, the son of a billionaire and two guys with 170+ IQ. It's a hell of a group of people t…

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Re: The Ivy League and other elite private colleges are losing esteem

#10

One of the worst, most embarrassing mistakes one can make as they age is to believe themselves so wise as to offer up unsolicited advice to the young.

The only advice you can give the young is unsolicited. They'll never ask for it because they already believe they know everything.

I'm fully aware my reply is ridiculous, much like what I was responding to.

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