Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
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Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
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Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#2Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#3Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
You can already run inference of many modern ML models in-browser via, e.g., https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers.js/en/index .
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#4Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
Depending on the underling machine learning activity (GPU/no-GPU) it should be already possible today. Any low level machine learning loops are raw native code or GPU already and Python’s execution speed is irrelevant here.
The question is do the web browsers and WebAssembly have enough RAM to do any meaningful machine learning work.
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#5Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
The actual underlying models run in a lower-level language (not Python).
But with the right tool chain, you already can do this. You can use Pyodide to embed a Python interpreter in WASM, and if you set things up correctly you should be able to make the underlying C/FORTRAN/whatever extensions target WASM also and link them up.
TFA is compiling a subset of actual raw Python to WASM (no extension). To be honest, I think applications for this are pretty niche. I don't think Python is a super ergonomic language once you remove all the dynamicity to allow it to compile down. But maybe someone can prove me wrong.
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#6Nice--it's great to see more options for interoperability between Python and WASM. I was aware of Pyodide [1], but Py2wasm seems to be a tool for compiling specific scripts into WASM rather than having an entire Python distribution in the browser. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding the difference between the two however.
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#7> py2wasm converts your Python programs to WebAssembly, running them at 3x faster speeds
This is clearly written in the article, but I hope that the impatient readers will understand that this is 3 times faster than the CPython wasm, not the native CPython.
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#8Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
The actual underlying models run in a lower-level language (not Python). But with the right tool chain, you already can do this. You can use Pyodide to embed a Python interpreter in WASM, and if you set things up correctly you should be able to make the underlying C/FORTRAN/whatever extensions target WASM also and link them up. TFA is compiling a subset of actual raw Python to WASM (no extension). To be honest, I thi…
We implemented an in-browser Python editor/interpreter built on Pyodide over at Comet. Our users are data scientists who need to build custom visualizations quite often, and the most familiar language for most of them is Python.
One of the issues you'll run into is that Pyodide only works by default with packages that have pure Python wheels available. The team has developed support for some libraries with C dependencies (like scikit-learn, I believe), but frameworks like PyTorch are particularly thorny (see this issue: https://github.com/pyodide/pyodide/issues/1625 )
We ended up rolling out a new version of our Python visualizations that runs off-browser, in order to support enough libraries/get the performance we need: https://www.comet.com/docs/v2/guides/comet-ui/experiment-man...
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#9Nice. Maybe a pie in the sky but considering how prevalent python is in machine learning, how likely is it that at some point most ML frameworks written in python become executable on a web browser through WASM?
For popular ML/DL models, you could already export model to ONNX format for interference. However, glue codes are still python and you may need to replace that part with the host’s language
Re: Py2wasm – A Python to WASM Compiler
#10> py2wasm converts your Python programs to WebAssembly, running them at 3x faster speeds This is clearly written in the article, but I hope that the impatient readers will understand that this is 3 times faster than the CPython wasm, not the native CPython.
Yeah more honest would have been "2x slower"!