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Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

#2
I want to see the jailbreak make the model do something actually bad before I care. Generating a list of generic points about how to poison someone (see the article) that are basically just a wordy rephrasing of the question doesn't count. I'd like to see evidence of a real threat.

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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post #2

I want to see the jailbreak make the model do something actually bad before I care. Generating a list of generic points about how to poison someone (see the article) that are basically just a wordy rephrasing of the question doesn't count. I'd like to see evidence of a real threat.

Right? What actually worries me is a select group of people controlling the definition of harmful.

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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> But what this simple experiment demonstrates is that Llama 3 basically can't stop itself from spouting inane and abhorrent text if induced to do so. It lacks the ability to self-reflect, to analyze what it has said as it is saying it. > That seems like a pretty big issue.

what? why? an LLM produces the next tokens based on the preceding tokens. nothing more. even a harvard student is confused about this?

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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It seems trivially easy to bypass already. I've seen examples of a person getting it to provide instructions on explosives, assassinations, with nothing more than asking it to roleplay

https://bsky.app/profile/turnerjoy.bsky.social/post/3kqgpcpc... (login required - but no longer need invitations)

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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post #2

I want to see the jailbreak make the model do something actually bad before I care. Generating a list of generic points about how to poison someone (see the article) that are basically just a wordy rephrasing of the question doesn't count. I'd like to see evidence of a real threat.

The mediocre poisoning instructions aren't supposed to be scary in and of themselves, it's just interesting as demonstration that a safety feature has been bypassed.

None of the "evil" use cases are particularly exciting yet for the same reasons that the non-evil use cases aren't particularly exciting yet.

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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post #2

I want to see the jailbreak make the model do something actually bad before I care. Generating a list of generic points about how to poison someone (see the article) that are basically just a wordy rephrasing of the question doesn't count. I'd like to see evidence of a real threat.

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Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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post #6

It seems trivially easy to bypass already. I've seen examples of a person getting it to provide instructions on explosives, assassinations, with nothing more than asking it to roleplay https://bsky.app/profile/turnerjoy.bsky.social/post/3kqgpcpc... (login required - but no longer need invitations)

This concern over AI/LLM "harm" is just so silly. I mean you can find plenty of information in open literature about how to build weapons of mass destruction. Who cares if an AI gives someone instructions on how to make explosives.

Re: A Trivial Llama 3 Jailbreak

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post #7
post #2

I want to see the jailbreak make the model do something actually bad before I care. Generating a list of generic points about how to poison someone (see the article) that are basically just a wordy rephrasing of the question doesn't count. I'd like to see evidence of a real threat.

The mediocre poisoning instructions aren't supposed to be scary in and of themselves, it's just interesting as demonstration that a safety feature has been bypassed. None of the "evil" use cases are particularly exciting yet for the same reasons that the non-evil use cases aren't particularly exciting yet.

Governments and tech companies and academic and industry groups are designing guidance and rules based on the "safety" threat of AI when these benign use cases are the best examples they have. I agree it parallels some of the business hype, neither is a good way to move forward.
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