The Camorra Never Sleeps (2012)
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The Camorra Never Sleeps (2012)
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#3This is from 12 years ago and has a lot of speculation/worries for what will happen next, anyone know a good update on what did happen?
Edit: Looks like Cosimo Di Lauro died in prison in 2022.
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#4> And so what? You learn to duck. In his entire life only once has he had to buy back his car. Certainly the government of Italy has cost him more in taxes
The author, William Langewiesche, should really be ashamed about what they wrote: comparing the state (and all the services it provides) to the Camorra.
This is very poor and ignorant writing, from somebody that clearly hasn't spent any significant time in those places.
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#5> And so what? You learn to duck. In his entire life only once has he had to buy back his car. Certainly the government of Italy has cost him more in taxes The author, William Langewiesche, should really be ashamed about what they wrote: comparing the state (and all the services it provides) to the Camorra. This is very poor and ignorant writing, from somebody that clearly hasn't spent any significant time in those p…
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#6> And so what? You learn to duck. In his entire life only once has he had to buy back his car. Certainly the government of Italy has cost him more in taxes The author, William Langewiesche, should really be ashamed about what they wrote: comparing the state (and all the services it provides) to the Camorra. This is very poor and ignorant writing, from somebody that clearly hasn't spent any significant time in those p…
It's describing the attitudes and views of a person other than the author.
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#7Criminal organizations like the mafia always thrive when the government is weak - and Italy's various governments of the last decades if not centuries have never been strong, neither in the sense of "the government provides security for its people", in "the government provides stability for its people" nor in "the government can actually govern". It's been clown show after clown show, on a level not much lower than the perpetually-gridlocked US Congress.
And from what we're seeing here in Europe, the US seems to head towards even lower levels of dysfunctionality, with crime running rampant in many cities, homeless encampments drug users and dealers as well as mentally ill people roaming on the street. No wonder people are saying that criminal gangs rule these cities.
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#8Criminal organizations like the mafia always thrive when the government is weak - and Italy's various governments of the last decades if not centuries have never been strong, neither in the sense of "the government provides security for its people", in "the government provides stability for its people" nor in "the government can actually govern ". It's been clown show after clown show, on a level not much lower than…
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#9Criminal organizations like the mafia always thrive when the government is weak - and Italy's various governments of the last decades if not centuries have never been strong, neither in the sense of "the government provides security for its people", in "the government provides stability for its people" nor in "the government can actually govern ". It's been clown show after clown show, on a level not much lower than…
Criminal organizations are a form of government in some ways, protection schemes can be viewed as similar to taxes, and criminal organizations can provide welfare in the form of patronage and corruption. Where the government is lacking, or among populations that the government ignores (such as recent immigrants), a need arises for protection from the unorganized crime, and hence criminals organize and extract money for their efforts.
I'm not saying this is good, compared to most (but not all) governments, criminal organizations tend to be more prone to violent outbursts. Accountability is reduced due to the unofficial and secretive nature of these organizations (although there are plenty of governments with low accountability). Secrecy also makes democratic practices almost impossible (although I would be interested in hearing of any exceptions). Nepotism and vulnerability to failures in new generations are common issues.
But I suppose what I am saying is similar to the sentiment "Criminal organizations like the mafia always thrive when the government is weak" - to actually reduce the influence of criminal organizations, governments must provide some level of competent protection and services, or otherwise another criminal organization will just step in whenever one is taken down.
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#10> And so what? You learn to duck. In his entire life only once has he had to buy back his car. Certainly the government of Italy has cost him more in taxes The author, William Langewiesche, should really be ashamed about what they wrote: comparing the state (and all the services it provides) to the Camorra. This is very poor and ignorant writing, from somebody that clearly hasn't spent any significant time in those p…
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