Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
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Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#2Stability always seemed like a dark horse thanks to the reputation of their founder and their open source business model. I do get some schadenfreude from seeing them like this considering the damage many feel they've done to the art community.
E: -4 in 10 minutes. Stay classy hackernews. I hope this company and OpenAI choke on the algorithmic disgorgement when the law catches up.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#3The open source community should pitch in.. goFundMe
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#4Every Forbes article should have the warning that they are not real publication anymore. Everything they publish is written with an intention that you believe an authors opinion as fact.
The model for Stability ends in a likely way, they will be swallowed up in a payday. We have recent examples of this.
For now, they’re the most open area in a garden of closing gates. And I wish them all the best.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#5Stability always seemed like a dark horse thanks to the reputation of their founder and their open source business model. I do get some schadenfreude from seeing them like this considering the damage many feel they've done to the art community. E: -4 in 10 minutes. Stay classy hackernews. I hope this company and OpenAI choke on the algorithmic disgorgement when the law catches up.
The entire AI industry is powered by piracy at a massive scale. Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated. It's just more obvious with open models because we can investigate them. Closed models are sausages and we don't know what went in.
Download a movie and you can get sued or your Internet connection terminated, but pirate the entire collective output of humanity and sell it back to us from behind a paywall and that's fine.
I have more sympathy for Stability here because at least they opened the models. IMHO models trained on not-properly-licensed (pirated) data should at the very least not be copyrightable and should be public domain. (These piracy enterprises are aware of this as a possible legal outcome in some jurisdictions, so the whole AI safety bullshit performance is an attempt to scare people about open models to head off the potential of questionably-trained models being declared uncopyrightable and forced to be released.)
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#6The open source community should pitch in.. goFundMe
If Stability was a nonprofit, sure. Otherwise, lol.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#7Every Forbes article should have the warning that they are not real publication anymore. Everything they publish is written with an intention that you believe an authors opinion as fact. The model for Stability ends in a likely way, they will be swallowed up in a payday. We have recent examples of this. For now, they’re the most open area in a garden of closing gates. And I wish them all the best.
Indeed.
Articles can be bought outright.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#8Stability always seemed like a dark horse thanks to the reputation of their founder and their open source business model. I do get some schadenfreude from seeing them like this considering the damage many feel they've done to the art community. E: -4 in 10 minutes. Stay classy hackernews. I hope this company and OpenAI choke on the algorithmic disgorgement when the law catches up.
The entire AI industry is powered by piracy at a massive scale. Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated. It's just more obvious with open models because we can investigate them. Closed models are sausages and we don't know what went in. Download a movie and you can get sued or your Internet connection terminated, but pirate the entire collective output of humanity and sell it back to us from beh…
> Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated.
Could it ever be the case, I wonder, if we could trust/enforce/believe that a model had so abstracted what it learned from the training inputs such that the model was not a derived work from them?
I've seen the examples where the model is able to reproduce recognizable characters from popular media. Those look like they might be "just" overfitting? While I can see that as desirable from the point of view of being able to create a picture of "Robocop shopping for diapers". But maybe we could compromise and converge to a point where AI art isn't quite so demonized and instead is seen as a useful tool.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#9Stability always seemed like a dark horse thanks to the reputation of their founder and their open source business model. I do get some schadenfreude from seeing them like this considering the damage many feel they've done to the art community. E: -4 in 10 minutes. Stay classy hackernews. I hope this company and OpenAI choke on the algorithmic disgorgement when the law catches up.
The entire AI industry is powered by piracy at a massive scale. Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated. It's just more obvious with open models because we can investigate them. Closed models are sausages and we don't know what went in. Download a movie and you can get sued or your Internet connection terminated, but pirate the entire collective output of humanity and sell it back to us from beh…
>and sell it back to us from behind a paywall and that's fine.
That's the sticking point. If it's an open tool for humanity's benefit being created given back to us, that's one thing... but to sell it back to us...
With that said, piracy is close to what's happening... but I think we should be careful classifying where/what exactly is the matter. I reason I think that matter's lies may be down the end of a slippery slope, or it may be straight ahead of us... the future is hard to know. If we classify it poorly we may unintentionally cause human(post/trans-human) right's issues {if I upload my consciousness to a digital mind, I don't want archaic laws to dominate what I can see/compute based on the material of which I'm made}.
Re: Key Stable Diffusion Researchers Leave Stability AI as Company Flounders
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The entire AI industry is powered by piracy at a massive scale. Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated. It's just more obvious with open models because we can investigate them. Closed models are sausages and we don't know what went in. Download a movie and you can get sued or your Internet connection terminated, but pirate the entire collective output of humanity and sell it back to us from beh…
> Very little training data is properly licensed or compensated. Could it ever be the case, I wonder, if we could trust/enforce/believe that a model had so abstracted what it learned from the training inputs such that the model was not a derived work from them? I've seen the examples where the model is able to reproduce recognizable characters from popular media. Those look like they might be "just" overfitting? Whil…
They could at least make an effort to purchase licenses from all non-open content, comply with open licenses, and exclude content otherwise. They aren't making anything more than the most lame token effort because they don't care.