macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by siddharthgoel88 » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:07 AM UTC

macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine
appleinsider.com

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:27 AM UTC

https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by self_awareness » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:28 AM UTC

I find this hard to accept. Doesn't Apple do pre-release testing of their updates? How the release process looks like?

News like these are the major reason why I apply updates only after long periods of waiting if anything blows up for others. Why companies use their userbase as testers?

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by jbverschoor » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:33 AM UTC

self_awareness wrote: post #3

I find this hard to accept. Doesn't Apple do pre-release testing of their updates? How the release process looks like? News like these are the major reason why I apply updates only after long periods of waiting if anything blows up for others. Why companies use their userbase as testers?

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Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by yedpodtrzitko » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:34 AM UTC

previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39726292

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by riffraff » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:35 AM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #2

https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4

Why does this affect only Java? It seems any jit should be affected, and surely people would notice.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by agsnu » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:37 AM UTC

jbverschoor wrote: post #4

self_awareness wrote: post #3

I find this hard to accept. Doesn't Apple do pre-release testing of their updates? How the release process looks like? News like these are the major reason why I apply updates only after long periods of waiting if anything blows up for others. Why companies use their userbase as testers?

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FTFA:

> The issue was not present in the early access releases for macOS 14.4, so it was discovered only after Apple released the update.

There were some security fixes that were marked as under active exploitation in macOS 14.4, so my money is on those landing very steep close to the release date and this being fallout from that.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:38 AM UTC

riffraff wrote: post #6

vbezhenar wrote: post #2

https://blogs.oracle.com/java/post/java-on-macos-14-4

Why does this affect only Java? It seems any jit should be affected, and surely people would notice.

Maybe other JIT environments do not rely on SIGSEGV.

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by bingbingbing777 » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:38 AM UTC

jbverschoor wrote: post #4

self_awareness wrote: post #3

I find this hard to accept. Doesn't Apple do pre-release testing of their updates? How the release process looks like? News like these are the major reason why I apply updates only after long periods of waiting if anything blows up for others. Why companies use their userbase as testers?

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So I can release breaking changes to my API and expect consumers (who are software suppliers themselves) and it's their fault for not instantly updating their code? How is this not Apple when they were the ones that broke it?

Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 might break Java on your machine

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Post by dboreham » Mon, Mar 18, 2024, 7:41 AM UTC

jbverschoor wrote: post #4

self_awareness wrote: post #3

I find this hard to accept. Doesn't Apple do pre-release testing of their updates? How the release process looks like? News like these are the major reason why I apply updates only after long periods of waiting if anything blows up for others. Why companies use their userbase as testers?

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Definitely Apple.