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Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

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Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

#5

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

OpenAI has blatantly said that the "open" in their name was a deceptive marketing ploy. At this point in time, they aren't interested in sharing much if any real research, and trying to discover this information is now an "attack" against them.

Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

#6

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

We used to call this "reverse engineering". I'm not familiar with what the law says on reverse engineering, but calling it "stealing" seems a bit too much.

Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

#7

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

The United States.

Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

#8

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

Do you consider blind SQL injection an attack? If a user is not meant to have access to information, but they can somehow access it, that is a vulnerability.

Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

#9

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

Do you consider blind SQL injection an attack? If a user is not meant to have access to information, but they can somehow access it, that is a vulnerability.

Sure, except the information here is not other users' account info or something, it's analogous to the source of the DBMS. Which is not typically considered sensitive.

Re: Stealing Part of a Production Language Model

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post #6

The implications of this sentiment are disturbing. It is considered an "attack" to probe at something to understand how it works in detail. In other words, how basically all natural science is done. What the fuck has this world turned into?

We used to call this "reverse engineering". I'm not familiar with what the law says on reverse engineering, but calling it "stealing" seems a bit too much.

"Reverse engineering part of a production language model" has a more boring ring to it though.
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