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It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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>"The difference here is that Microsoft is using its Windows monopoly power in the OS market to exclude competition in the browser market."

Some might see it that way. Personally, I don't think that's Microsoft's goals at all, it's just an unintended consequence of them trying to slowly phase out the Win32 API and Desktop applications, and switch entirely to Metro-style WinRT-based apps.

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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>"The difference here is that Microsoft is using its Windows monopoly power in the OS market to exclude competition in the browser market." Some might see it that way. Personally, I don't think that's Microsoft's goals at all, it's just an unintended consequence of them trying to slowly phase out the Win32 API and Desktop applications, and switch entirely to Metro-style WinRT-based apps.

i am using firefox since versino 0.x, now of course, apple brags about a monopoly on tablets and firefox is not there, if gartner/idc predictions are true, tablets and other arm based devices will rule the world in 2015. so it is better for mozilla to target apple and ms at the same time.

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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>"The difference here is that Microsoft is using its Windows monopoly power in the OS market to exclude competition in the browser market." Some might see it that way. Personally, I don't think that's Microsoft's goals at all, it's just an unintended consequence of them trying to slowly phase out the Win32 API and Desktop applications, and switch entirely to Metro-style WinRT-based apps.

It may certainly not be their goal, but they should know better.

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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FF's entire existence is based on a hate of Microsoft, so it only makes sense.

That's why they're taking it up the butt from Google Chrome, Mozilla does not know how to deal with them. Nor do they particularly care that much about it, it seems (other than switching to increasing the version number every 2 months).

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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I don't think Apple blocks Firefox on iOS. Other browsers like Opera exist in the App Store, maybe Mozilla just hasn't developed FF for iOS yet? Or am I wrong?

Apple blocks all non-Safari browsers from the store. Opera Mobile doesn't exist in the App store, only Opera Mini which uses a remote server for rendering. Other browsers in the store use iOS webkit and are effectively shells around the Safari rendering engine.

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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I don't think Apple blocks Firefox on iOS. Other browsers like Opera exist in the App Store, maybe Mozilla just hasn't developed FF for iOS yet? Or am I wrong?

From mozilla.org:

We have no plans to release the full Firefox browser for iOS. The iOS SDK agreement requires apps to use Apple's own JavaScript engine (or none at all, like Opera Mini which downloads pre-rendered pages from Opera's servers and cannot run JavaScript code in the client). Because of this, we have no supported way to distribute Firefox's rendering and JavaScript engine to iPhone users. However, you can download Firefox Home for iPhone, an iOS app that uses Firefox Sync to deliver Firefox bookmarks, browsing history, and tabs to your iPhone or iPod Touch.

Re: It's OK for Apple to block Firefox, but wrong when Microsoft does it

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>"The difference here is that Microsoft is using its Windows monopoly power in the OS market to exclude competition in the browser market." Some might see it that way. Personally, I don't think that's Microsoft's goals at all, it's just an unintended consequence of them trying to slowly phase out the Win32 API and Desktop applications, and switch entirely to Metro-style WinRT-based apps.

That would make sense except that they specifically exempt their own browser from the restrictions that will apply to every other browser.
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